Development Cycle Archive

Thread: Live Issues Publish 9: Secrets of the Force

GrolenOvrDhouje
Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:24 am
#807






Thunderheart wrote: (6/25)





Khragon wrote:

Wheres the descriptions of the skills?



Monday after I wrap up the patch notes...









http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=game_guides&message.id=186725#M186725


Heya TH, what ever happened to our description of the skills for Jedi on Monday? BEFORE the publish?? BEFORE WE ALL ALLOCATED OUR SKILLS WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT THEY EACH DID!! WHY HAVENT YOU CAME UP WITH A LIST STILL!?!? WHY CANT I RE-ROLL MY FS SKILLS, SINCE YOU DIDNT POST THE LIST OF SKILLS AS YOU SAID YOU WOULD?!? WHY DID JUST G POST THAT WE WERENT GOING TO BE ABLE TO REROLL THESE SKILLS EVEN THOUGH YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO POST THE DESCRIPTIONS THE DAY BEFORE THE PUBLISH WENT LIVE??? WHY DID THE PUBLISH GO OUT PRIOR TO YOU POSTING THIS LIST???? JEDI GOT THE SHAFT, AND WE CAN ALL THANK YOU TH.


/applaud TH!! you deserve it, the vision quest was top notch, great job TH. BRAVO.


=P






CRON - Flurry Master TKA,Dirty Fighter,Shock trooper

GrolenOvrDhouje
Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:25 am
#808


Message Edited by GrolenOvrDhouje on 07-02-2004 12:26 PM





CRON - Flurry Master TKA,Dirty Fighter,Shock trooper

mmaughme
Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:26 am
#809


I'm disappointed that after 35 pages, allThunderheart hasto say is that Entertainers have new songs and dances.


/sigh





Fichesi Ishott, Ex-Jedi Wannabe ~ Scout | Bio-Engineer | Musician | Dancer | Entertainer
Tailor | Ranger | Creature Handler | Carbineer | Image Designer | Armorsmith | ...Silent...
Rifleman | Artisan | Droid Engineer | Chef | Weaponsmith | Architect | Medic | Combat Medic
Marksman | Doctor | Pikeman | Brawler | Fencer (in progress) | Publish 9 (sigh) | Cancelled

Vissix
Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:48 am
#810



mmaughme wrote:
I'm disappointed that after 35 pages, allThunderheart hasto say is that Entertainers have new songs and dances.
/sigh





/agreecompletely



Vars


Vissix
Sat Jul 03, 2004 12:52 am
#811

The devs are guilty of selective listening.



Vars


Verviticus
Sat Jul 03, 2004 2:24 am
#812

I'm all for corpse camping, etc. You guys should start at ZERO every time you die.


Sigh.



Aerevrial, hunter of all types extrordinare.
Undefeated in 1v1!
Moo.
Munter
Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:06 am
#813

Jalia wrote:



"Most....depressing...thread...ever...


I dont have the heart to play tonight anymore =( "


Indeed, the tread is depressing..but the game is not ... unless you are a high-end player and / or an artisan grinder.

If you are not one of these players then there are ways to avoid many of the negative effects of the publish.


I withdrew into the wilderness and haven't seen a Jedi in two days...comming to think of it..I haven't seen anyone in two days. Where is everyone??


Don't change armor during battle and there is no problem..else the delay is a minor nuicence and serves no purpose whatever.

Time your weapon swopps carefully during combat and it works almost as before, at least for me. But then, I do not play PvP and I am no BH,chasing Jedi

As for the bugged resources vendors...we are promised it will be fixed soon.


And if you still don't like the changes..; Do something else for a few days... take up a new profession like dancing..or even better...talk to your spouse Got time now to do that


The whole issue reminds me of the time when the CH's were nerfed. Everyone was crying...includingme but now the pets I have are much more powerful then the ones before the Nerf.. ain't making sense to nerf something and then make it more powerful then before (level 56 rabbits with 75% resistance to all) it ain't making sense...but that is SWG


If you think this is depressing just wait until publish 10 goes alive Who is going to rescue as from mad Jedi ??



Freedom and life, for me, are the two sides of the same coin.
RainbowScooter
Sat Jul 03, 2004 4:27 am
#814

problems regarding the jedi revamp and ideas to solve them:

as is after publish 9:

- after publish9 there are tons of jedi around. at all starports one can see them in their
robes wielding lightsabers.

exampe given:
In Theed 2 jedi even fought 30 meters besides the imperial branch. Sorry, but this is wrong.
We are in a timeline were jedi are hunted down. Jedi have to hide. They may not use their

powers and reveal themselfes as jedi in public (even see them running around in robes and

wielding a light saber does offend a lot of people).
As devoted Star Wars fan I have to say that this destroys my and other peoples fun and
above all the Star Wars Feeling.

We do not want to see jedi all around and have the Empire standing next to them doing
nothing. It does not fit into Star Wars at this point.

Our passion for the game comes from the passion for the movies. It sad to see that with
every update you move further away from the movies.

The Jedi Trials made things much worse! Why? How many dungeons or interesting fight spots are there in SWG? Not many:
- Nightsisters, Elders
- Genosian Bunker
- Death Watch Bunker
- Tusken Fort
- Krayt Graveyard

to name the most. The Jedi trials have all these locations as target. E.G. Kill Ackley!!!
Now thats great having like 20 Jedi sitting in the Geno Bunker and killing everything.
How will a normal class be competitive to the jedi? Everyone has to become jedi to be able to keep up.

What will happen to the other30+ classes if everyone is about to become jedi? Who will need armor, weapons, etc.?

Ideas:

- Don't allow jedi to wear robes and sabers in cities (at least not in big or Empire
controlled cities) - Peple hate to see 10+ jedi at star ports

- Have unbeatable Commando Troopers or maybe even Vader himself spawn when a jedis offends
against this points (wearing a jedi robe and saber in big cities)
These troopers may teleport off the scene to prevent having xxx troopers standing around.

- make a filter, a "whole character filter" so one can enter the jedi name and does not have
to see or read/hear something from that char. may give problems if one fights an enemy were
also a filterred-out jedi fights but thats a smal issue.

- make a role-play-only server and allow people to move with items and cash (except jedi).
This may cost a fee (like moving everquest accounts)

- reintroduce the TEF. Every jedi running in big cities wielding a saber +wearing a robe
will get a TEF. Using force powers will give them a TEF.
It does not work to rely on people behave mature. You have to force them to not ruin the fun
of the majority.


For my part I have canceled my account. So did 2 of my friends. You will loose a lot more
customers because they want to play Star Wars online not KOTOR (Knights of the oldRepublic) online.

It is only a game but the feelings are real and I am really demotivated. I dont want to play a game which makes me angry and

sad.

A look into the future:
Add-on 2 "a gate to the past". The jedi council discovered an ancient gate to the past. Now jedi have the possibility to jump

back to the old republic and fight great wars. --> Welcome to EQ plane of time for all the jedi


kind regards
alex
Double-J
Sat Jul 03, 2004 6:08 am
#815

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Tempest&message.id=131578


YA YOU DEVS NEED STOP IGNORING THINGS LIKE THIS AND DO SOMTHING BOUT>>>> I THINK LOT PPL READY TO LEAVE THIS STUPID GAME CAUSE YOUR TO JEDI HAPPY RIGHT NOW



julez VERHANGRIS! SIE SIND GRIEFED GEWESEN
Dont Be mad if I run from you when im about to die!!..SYNce how im much smarter than you.
Galoopa
Sat Jul 03, 2004 6:44 am
#816






mmaughme wrote:


I'm disappointed that after 35 pages, allThunderheart hasto say is that Entertainers have new songs and dances.


/sigh







Sigh of agreement to TH's lack of response to all of the issues brought up. Glad the entertainers get something, but otherwise it is obvious the Devs subscribe to the childhood practice of hiding their heads under the blanket till the monsters are gone.

Message Edited by Galoopa on 07-03-2004 09:47 AM



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Songe
Sat Jul 03, 2004 8:05 am
#817


I ram a merchant, and since the patch I have received 6 emails so far saying that because I failed to pick something up the auction has expired. The problem is that they were not items from the stockroom, but items that were on sale, and they poofed. They never went to the stockroom, just got deleted after 30 days, and I got that mail.


I've only got those emails from the items listed on one vendor so far, out of 6. I keep receiving the normal unsuccesful auction emails on the other 5 vendors, but everytime an item expires from vendor 6, it poofs.


This bug is pretty serious for me, I've lost over 60k of items so far, and it should get fixed ASAP as far as I am concerned. I don't wish to see all my items poof instead of going to the stockroom after 30 days.



------

Novice Lekku Stomper
ParnellOfBria
Sat Jul 03, 2004 8:32 am
#818





ParnellOfBria wrote:

Jedi visibility STILL is going up from grouped players watching me fight. Very disconcerning since the only thing i was interested in this patch was the ability to FINALLY actually "play" my jedi, instead of just grind him all by myself off in no man's land of endor. Till then it' sback to being a lonely hermit off in the middle of no where.







You were supposed to never have that time to yourself. It was originally intended for you to be forced to PVP. Looks like they screwed that up.


You're SUPPOSED TO BE A LONELY HERMIT! FFS, WHAT THE HELL DO YOU THINK OBI-WAN AND YODA WERE? THE RUNNERS OF THE LOCAL CORNER STORE!?






Last i checked this was an MMO, not the movies, they threw out continuity a long time ago, time to accept that bro. If it's fun, it works, if it's not, it doesn't. If you want continuity, then let's make jedi kill in 1 hit, slicing off arms and legs, let's give them the ability to sense danger and when other jedi are around. You want continuity, then let jedi harvest their own crystals from caves. Let jedi block melee attacks. Let jedi deflect blaster shots back at their attackers. Let thermal detonators kill in one hit over a 20-50m radius. You want continuity, then get rid of every imperial having an ATST. You want continuity, get rid of creature handlers running around parading rancors and kimogilas. You want continuity, nerf the hell out of armor so that people can't take on 6-8 ERs at a time. You want continuity that bad huh. You can't have continuity to movies in an MMO, it breaks the fun-factor. Quit using continuity as an excuse to nerf things you don't like when theres tons of things that you probably enjoy that break continuity.



AS far as starting at ZERO every time jedi die... YES I am all for that... but we're talking about adding negative 200k every time... which is 3-4 hours of grinding for lower level jedi. And it keeps compounding.




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I will be playing DDO and BF2:SF.
/salute Bria and so long.
PoohBreath
Sat Jul 03, 2004 9:44 am
#819

PvP Ranking seems to be TOTALLY BORKED! I killed 14 people yesterday, 9 solo, 2 newbs but the rest were qualified PvPers. My rating goes up by a grand total of 11 points. On a number of those kills my rating went down.



Wnd they passed me around and treated me nice until I nervously sprayed them with [expletive deleted]
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