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Thread: Publish 10 Feedback: Jedi Revamp Part 2, The Jedi Trials

psychogamer
Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:52 am
#794


I am an extremely disgrunteled wookiee

almost everyone was holo grinding so about everyone got benefits. those that didnt have time to holo grind have to unlock everything ourselves and i understand that. but im hearing its gonna take 3 WHOLE WEEKS PER VILLAGE PHASE!!! that is just over kill. almost everyone is FS or jedi initiate or just waiting for the old mans second visit already. cant it be like 1 week per phase? that would seem more humane. even tho im not human im a humanoid and damn it we have right and feelings too!!!

Why wasnt it told to us before that it would be a 3 week per phase wait?



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Dark_Jedi_Knight_11
Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:23 am
#795

looks like someone was raped in prison


/point up

what you didnt listen when they said dont drop the soap?

lmao

i kid but tri say bye bye to ur account cause someone is gona report this **edit** lmao





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Thrakhath
Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:37 am
#796

i did the patrol quest in the village, after"completing" step 2/10 i did not return to the captain, but left the village and started the padawan trials.

after i was stuck in the padwan trials because the farmer in the village didnt talk to me, i wanted to do the missing steps of the patrol, but the patrol mission is bugged now. i was told that step 2 is incomplete after i returned. i tried the step 10 other times and always the same - mission incomplete. what can i do to finish the patrol quest?



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Cebre_Opasloa
Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:54 am
#797






psychogamer wrote:


I am an extremely disgrunteled wookiee

almost everyone was holo grinding so about everyone got benefits. those that didnt have time to holo grind have to unlock everything ourselves and i understand that. but im hearing its gonna take 3 WHOLE WEEKS PER VILLAGE PHASE!!! that is just over kill. almost everyone is FS or jedi initiate or just waiting for the old mans second visit already. cant it be like 1 week per phase? that would seem more humane. even tho im not human im a humanoid and damn it we have right and feelings too!!!

Why wasnt it told to us before that it would be a 3 week per phase wait?



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Thunderheart DID say each phase would be "several" weeks. The length of time is perfect for one simple reason...


The devs have said repeatedly that they will not artificially cap the number of Jedi. With 3 weeks of time per phase it's gonna take a long time to get Jedi. You gotta be really committed to do it.


There's too many players out there right now who only want Jedi so they can be "uber". They act nothing like what Jedi are supposed to be. Players like that will quickly tire of the work required and quit trying, and that's a good thing.





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gantoris13
Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:15 am
#798

Finally got the old man visit today, september 3. oddly enough when i wasnt even trying to get him he shows up, in my player town even.

i am glowey so thats probably what triggered it because i've only completed 14 profs so far. everything worked correctly for that as far as i can tell, he spoke to me and gave me the crystal. now i just have to wait on those sith.



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TxRoadDawg
Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:42 am
#799

as much as ive cursed the devs in the past and still do for the myriad of borked things wrong that still need fixing, like sliding across floors healing ect i have to say one thing. id rather the jedi pop go up very slowly then to have logged in the other night and seen coronets starport flooded with two or three hundred brand new jedis all waving a saber cause they got a new toy to play with. as for teh rest of the compliants everyone knew they had a chance to grind for slots, you want a jedi any faster just buy one off ebay.....



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darthrotten
Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:48 am
#800






TxRoadDawg wrote:

as much as ive cursed the devs in the past and still do for the myriad of borked things wrong that still need fixing, like sliding across floors healing ect i have to say one thing. id rather the jedi pop go up very slowly then to have logged in the other night and seen coronets starport flooded with two or three hundred brand new jedis all waving a saber cause they got a new toy to play with. as for teh rest of the compliants everyone knew they had a chance to grind for slots, you want a jedi any faster just buy one off ebay.....







BS. Nobody knew they had "the chance". SOE promised that hologrinders would be rewarded and compensated. COMPENSATED.


Not that they would get instant boxes while the rest of us have to wait several weeks at a time. They never said the FS XP ratio would be so utterly absurd either. 30 to 1 is a joke.

Naplam
Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:49 am
#801

Only part of this new system that seems enjoyable is the exit quest (which i'm no where near but helped someone do it)



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darthrotten
Sat Sep 04, 2004 4:52 am
#802






Naplam wrote:
Only part of this new system that seems enjoyable is the exit quest (which i'm no where near but helped someone do it)






Isn't a bit odd though that a personal quest to become a Jedi involves getting 10 people to help you gank a Sith Lord before you even become a Padawan? Like I said in launchpad chat, it would be like Luke taking a Rebel detachment with him to Dagobah.Oh well, if that were the least of my problems it wouldn't be the end of the world I guess.

RexxHart
Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:22 am
#803

The exit quest could be done with 3 people ( or a master rifleman maybe ) if you get a spawn that's not bugged. Naplam, wanna come help me ???? lol


Just checked, it doesn't respawn either at server reset.
EggyNSassy
Sat Sep 04, 2004 6:29 am
#804






darthrotten wrote:





Cebre_Opasloa wrote:





psychogamer wrote:


I am an extremely disgrunteled wookiee

almost everyone was holo grinding so about everyone got benefits. those that didnt have time to holo grind have to unlock everything ourselves and i understand that. but im hearing its gonna take 3 WHOLE WEEKS PER VILLAGE PHASE!!! that is just over kill. almost everyone is FS or jedi initiate or just waiting for the old mans second visit already. cant it be like 1 week per phase? that would seem more humane. even tho im not human im a humanoid and damn it we have right and feelings too!!!

Why wasnt it told to us before that it would be a 3 week per phase wait?



Name:Vall

Species: Wookiee Mood: One Very Angry Wook

Planet: Kashyyyk

Template: Master Doctor/Master Swordsman












Thunderheart DID say each phase would be "several" weeks. The length of time is perfect for one simple reason...


The devs have said repeatedly that they will not artificially cap the number of Jedi. With 3 weeks of time per phase it's gonna take a long time to get Jedi. You gotta be really committed to do it.


There's too many players out there right now who only want Jedi so they can be "uber". They act nothing like what Jedi are supposed to be. Players like that will quickly tire of the work required and quit trying, and that's a good thing.








But 3 weeks is just absurd. Think about it, 3 weeks at one branch per week with a minumum of 6 branches is 18 weeks plus the quests, plus the grinding (equivalent of several professions), plus the ridiculously hard exit quest. That's not commitment, that's insanity.


The same result would be achieved with a week long village phase and a slightly less punishing XP ratio. That would be commitment. As it is, it assures that all the DEVs promises are broken and that only grinders will be Jedi for months to come. And I'll tell you something, unlockers are the ones who want to be Jedi so they can be uber. They ponce around the cities like they own the place, ganking mundanes and acting immature. That's certainly not what Jedi are about. Not even Dark Jedi stoop so low. Us casual gamers are the ones who would actually know how to ROLEPLAY being Jedi, because we're the ones who actually play our professions and roleplay!





not only that, think about this too, some of the phases have two skill trees you can do, but you can only do one per phase, if you didn't unlock any free skill trees and train in phase 3 and 4, you'll have to wait to go back to phase 3 and 4 to train the 2 missing tree, another 12 weeks added to that

TGIFWknight
Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:02 am
#805

Pub 9 Unlock.. 32 professions>

3 days before Old man.

Did everything supposed to do.


NOW>

WHERE THE HELL IS MY EXIT QUEST ???????????


OR YOU WANNA BE JERKS SCREWING ME OVER??

CSR??

2 Days, No exit Quest..


Give me my damn Exit quest or cram ya lie's up ya ars
Dubolom
Sat Sep 04, 2004 8:11 am
#806


What really bugs me is, WHY do I have to be a Master Medic to unlock Persuasion branch in FS Senses? Persuasion has absolutely nothing to do with medicine and I do not want to grind Master Medic just to later drop it and use my scout xp to fill persuasion line!? I thouht this new system was supposed to get rid of grinding professiosn? On similar note, why in the world does "Survival" branch in reflexes only accepts weapon/combat xp and not scout xp when it is directly rellated to scouting!???



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