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Thread: Live Issues Publish 9: Secrets of the Force

Limbonik
Thu Jul 01, 2004 8:58 pm
#755






Burr wrote:







Thunderheart wrote:


No, Jedi can wear armor - - they just can't wear armor and use Force powers. And fwiw, its not *just* because of Jedi...there were other instances as well. That was just the best example.




Than by all means, give us the other examples and make us understand why this was necessary. Because right now you have a whole mess of combat players who recieved a sudden nerf and no one understanding whyit was done. And now we are told that it will be fixedduring the mythical combat balance? You guys have changed the whole complex of battle with this, you know. We can't get one damn positive fix tothe combat system that benefits anyone because "It will all be fixed in the combat revamp", but you guys seem to have no problem throwing in random nerfs that effect everything.



Funny. Didn't you guys screw up crafting only to fix it immediately the next day because players did not like it?


Or did I mis-read something? /no_icon_for_"that's pretty pathetic"





Limbonik
Imperial Inquisitor :: Darksider Historian
Remember the Fallen


Av-limil
Thu Jul 01, 2004 9:04 pm
#756






Thunderheart wrote:

Bounty Hunters have a particular pain with this because it hamstrings some of their most effective combos. There are other examples of this as well, but the change was necessary. The other aspect to this is that players were using these macros to compenasate for certain combat shortfalls. The right answer for the game is to address those things in the combat balance.






So you admitthe fix is poorly done, yet you think that the fact you're going to fix it sometime in the future somehow excuses its current state? I truly hope the Devs all stay at SOE where the worst they can do is screw up a game. God help us all if they take this same attitude towards building bridges, writing gov't defense software, etc.

MrSclod
Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:23 pm
#757






Daker-Naritus wrote:




Third, everything else you said was gibberish. That's why I didn't respond at all...your numbers validated my argument, and I couldn't understand the rest.







Try a reading comprehensive class ..it can help.



Adofo Sclod
Imperial Hunter&Gunfighter
MasterRanger,Pistoleer-
Sunrunner

MrSclod
Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:34 pm
#758






Munter wrote:


The fact is that; ALL PLAYERS ARE PUNISHED BECAUSE OF A MINORITY !!






Yeah your right there sir,its too bad because that seems to be the case now days with online games.People just don't play them like regular people they live with only what seems to be a neverending task of trying to have the best of everything ..even if it includes having to use shortcuts.


I like you hope they find a workaround for this but at the moment it seems to be the best they can do because I bet the minute they try to create a quick alternate answer to the problem people will just try and find another way





Adofo Sclod
Imperial Hunter&Gunfighter
MasterRanger,Pistoleer-
Sunrunner

SeanBlader
Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:17 pm
#759

Special edition glasses got the lens colors all messed up with this update.




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Liani
Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:13 am
#760

I've been told that if you do not use specials when you are attacking the lair for the last 1000 HAM or so the missions will pay off for you every time. I've tried it a couiple times and it has worked for me.




No offense but this is bantha poo.


I tried this and every other "work around" and they are as random as using all my tools.


The only thing that works better than letting me do what I should be able to do....is to run my missions from a remote term in a smallish player city away from the crowds. This is because (apparently) there is a server overload issue which m ay be at the center of this bug.


But I digress.


I could care less what causes this, or why it happens, or if there is a work around for it.


I want to play the game at full capacity.


This bug still exists and NONE of my reports have been given the courtesy of a response.


Liani



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Galoopa
Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:22 am
#761






Liani wrote:

I've been told that if you do not use specials when you are attacking the lair for the last 1000 HAM or so the missions will pay off for you every time. I've tried it a couiple times and it has worked for me.




No offense but this is bantha poo.


I tried this and every other "work around" and they are as random as using all my tools.


The only thing that works better than letting me do what I should be able to do....is to run my missions from a remote term in a smallish player city away from the crowds. This is because (apparently) there is a server overload issue which m ay be at the center of this bug.


But I digress.


I could care less what causes this, or why it happens, or if there is a work around for it.


I want to play the game at full capacity.


This bug still exists and NONE of my reports have been given the courtesy of a response.


Liani





Well, if it makes you feel any better the ones they do respond to are the same, we are aware of this problem and there is nothing we can do to help you, we hope this does not take away from your enjoyment blah blah blah. The standard we really don't care about our customer base response.





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LevaOripa
Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:23 am
#762

Dear Mister


Kurt "Thunderheart" Stangl
Assistant Community Manager



4) Weapon Switching/Combat Cue:

once upon a time pikeman said our profession is broke we get pwn all the time we areweak

Devs say make uber dot weapons for pike problem solved!

You should have just fixed pikeman the real way


now you have borked up a lot of combat professions with delays and made the game unfun for many


Solution........

Drop the delays it was a bad idea you should have asked us as a community before you did this

add a 10 second delay to switch from pike to pike

putting 500 damage mind fire dot weapons in the game is foolish please stop this at once

or put these loot weapons in the game for every combat class


these delays punish people from imersing themselves in cantinas and medical faculitys by REQUIRING them to have weapons equiped and in pvp armor because they cant do this when they see another overt comming it takes too long to equip everything before the enemy is on top of you.


its already been posted by hundreds about lack of immersion in the game all this does it take even more of it away by forcing us to be combat ready all of the time if overt.


It really hurts people in pve switching from ranged to melee professions as well as in pvp making there classes unfun to play


I see nothing positive or adding to the fun factor at all from the new delays

The only people who may be happy are those who only need 1 weapon like a fencer with a ackley stun baton or a jedi with there light saber or a combat medic


What message are you sending to us ?



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Daker-Naritus
Fri Jul 02, 2004 12:56 am
#763






JaqUinRha wrote:


Sorry but the pedantic demon inside me wants to know what it was that jedi Darth Vader was wearing in all the movies if it wasn't armour?







Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that was armor....


Darth Vader was 75% machine, and I think 1/2 the suit was life support, whereas the other half was just clothing covering his machine parts.


The only thing that was shiny or hard (like armor should be) is his helmet, which was was meant to keep oxygen in.


Hav0c
Fri Jul 02, 2004 2:12 am
#764






Dannylau wrote:

Very few dev responses on this train wreck of a patch, So either 1 they can't decide what to do after spending 2 months getting this patch ready and finding they could lose a lot of their customer base or 2 they're just going to ignore all of us and carry on the way they are as they don't care what we think






It's 2



Watph Brilo
Master Bounty Hunter

'I am Jack's broken heart'
Galoopa
Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:04 am
#765

Page 33 and no real Dev response. Once again it appears the Dev attitude to the horrid garbage they keep wrecking this game with is hust to ignore it. I guess they figure the problems will just go away with time. They are right though the problems will go away in time, along with all of their customers. Yet another of my friends was about to quit last night due to lack of content and all of these pathetic patches, for selfish reasons I talked him into staying a little longer, if he left that would pretty much take away the last of the fun I have in this game. So much is riding on the upcoming patches Devs, you had better wake up and start listening to us.



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OlisJ
Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:09 am
#766

There is a serious issue about vendors in new publish!

All sales instead of going unsucessfull and getting to storage for 7 days ar permanently lost, after sale expire occures. This must be fixed ASAP.

By doing this you leave us no choice but to close all sales untill it is fixed.


I can't sit near my vendor and examine all my sales items one by one and withdraw/sale them. There are too many of them.



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Fyrakin (General), Gerath (Space Master), Fyr'akin (Spy Master)
Fyrakin' (The Maker), Gorim (The Breaker), Belzedar (The Seeker),
Fyr'andrion (The Gadgeteer), Fyrandrion (The Shouter), Hardened (The Runner)
Naritus Darkstar family:
Kiohehn (Grind Master), Imosni (Master Seeker), Ewoughti (Jack of Trades)
Naritus orphans:
Witai Iocepeelak (Captain Musician), Aekebe (The brewer)
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Dannylau
Fri Jul 02, 2004 3:18 am
#767






OlisJ wrote:

There is a serious issue about vendors in new publish!

All sales instead of going unsucessfull and getting to storage for 7 days ar permanently lost, after sale expire occures. This must be fixed ASAP.

By doing this you leave us no choice but to close all sales untill it is fixed.


I can't sit near my vendor and examine all my sales items one by one and withdraw/sale them. There are too many of them.





You have got to be kidding me, I've got 800 items on my vendor and get expiries every day I've got millions of credits worth of stuff on there.


Unless they fix this Sh1t RIGHT NOW im gone


For fock sake they delayed the publish of this super crappy patch for 2 weeks to make sure everything was right, what in gods name were they doing beside drooling over their pet jedi's



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