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Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever

Westpark
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:18 pm
#508

.. all I can say... you guys cant wait.. 5% of the people care of about jedi.. If you dont atleast fix the broken specials, and change CM now, you're gonna lose players.. a lot of players.. JtL will mean nothing if the vets leave..


There is nothing in the game for players between now and patch 10.. almost 2 months from now..

Message Edited by Westpark on 07-15-2004 05:19 PM



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Curgenven
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:18 pm
#509
I'll bet you £10 that they don't give a rats arse what we think about all this though. This is a set thing, and however much we complain, threaten/actualy leave, call out bomb threats on their offices (Don't do that, well depends on how you feel I guess), or generaly make ourselfs heard, they arn't going to do jack diddly squat about it.
microunityexclusive
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:22 pm
#510
Heheh wait until WOW and Ever Quest 2 go live. Then they might pay more attention to there player base.



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Glizzy
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:23 pm
#511

TAKE ALL THE TIME YOU NEED!!


just let USplay for free... AND CREDIT MY ACCOUNT FOR time lost




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Oireg
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:23 pm
#512




microunityexclusive wrote:

Heheh wait until WOW and Ever Quest 2 go live. Then they might pay more attention to there player base.





ummm, think about that for a second.
KyleKnox
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:24 pm
#513
TH - Jedi have been told over and over that we were the first class "balanced" -translation nerfed - for the upcoming CB. We have also been told to "wait for the CB" so that ohter classes will be brought into line with our gimped damage (a swordsman does twice the damage to me as a Master LS with an all pearl 4th gen in PvP - TWICE the damage) and stripped of our armour.


About the armour issue we were told repeatedly that robes would have resists and not to worry all armour would be nerfed anyway. Well with the CB now many many more months off, please give these three issues a backend band-aid. Please.


1) LS damage is too low - WAY TOO LOW. We were told damage mitgation for melee temploiters was going away in CB - well now it will be here to stay for some time. On a temploiter with buffs and food, A MASTER LS can not DO enough damage to overcome their REGEN rate. I have tested htis numerous times. WE CANT DO ENOUGH DAMAGE. We run out of force and die. From ONE player.


2)Robes MUST HAVE ARMOUR-LIKE RESISTS. This is what we were promised. You took away our high end comp, and we were told robes would replace it. RIght now, my RIFLE/CM is a better tank than my jedi...I say again , MY RIFLE/CM is a BETTER TANK than my 2nd RANK JEDI KNIGHT, particularly in PvE. This is a pure, cruel vicious joke.


3) Our poison cures and disease cures need to be UNNERFED back to the level they were before patch 9 - why were these nerfed in the first place?


These are gaping wound injuries in the current system. They are simple tweaks. Please fix them. TY.



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Curgenven
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:24 pm
#514
They make EQ2, they won't care about that, WoW might have a serious effect though
PanzerGR
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:25 pm
#515
so what are you going to "fix" between august and JTL


more Jedi changes?


give me a break TH this is th ebiggest joke in the frickign world.


As excited as I am about the Space Expansion.....which is the whole reason I got into SWG int he first place.....putting it off until after JTL is a JOKE. You guys pushed back 2 general profession revamps......Squad Leader and Smuggler...to fix Jedi


you put off the GCW and COmbat rebalance so you could push Jedi fixes that affect a small % of the community. Now because JTL is coming up and you wnana get that out you wont be fixing combat till after JTl......which means any patches for JTl and fixes will either


A) push back the combat revamp even longer


or


B) Force JTL customers to suffer without any major fixes or content change suntil after you get the combat revamp done.


But.....OH WAIT! YOU FIXED JEDI SO THAT MAKES EVERYTHING OK!!!


You should have doen the combat revamp FIRST, then Jedi SECOND., i swear i dont know what goes though your guys' heads sometimes. The only peopel thanking you for the jedi fixes are the small % of people who have jedi or those who only want to be a jedi. It does nothing for 90% of the community and now we all got shafted yet again.


you guys better hope JTL is a dream because if JTL doesnt hold up then anyone in this game for the SE is going to leave because the gorund combat stinks and the Development and Design teams keep screwing over the community.


And dont make the mistake of thinking my comments dont count because im positive theres at least 50% of the community whod agree with me.








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ZelousShadow
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:28 pm
#516
Its far too important to push aside like that.

Maybe instead of putting it off, you should Hire More help.
GenTesla
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:30 pm
#517
You know they never found the Iraqi Information minister?


Well I think finally we have all found him he works at SOE



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ZelousShadow
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:30 pm
#518




Glizzy wrote:

TAKE ALL THE TIME YOU NEED!!


just let USplay for free... AND CREDIT MY ACCOUNT FOR time lost






You definitly owe us something for coercing us into investing into a game you have no immediate plans, or priority to fix
Nicklaus42
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:32 pm
#519
TH, i got a small question if you read this..


I know its surely hard to work on this game , putting so many differents and new things, getting so many ideas and trying to put them all as soon in game. But what i dosent understand, is why a so big lack of informations, or atleast changing eta without warning... combat balance and gcw is important and many poeples waiting for this (as much as peoples waiting for jtl),


example: you said the most important for beta of jtl was ,fanfest, testcenter veteran and veteran of the game...

Now is fanfest are sure to be admit, but for evryone else..is kinda random...

Are you accepting in beta peoples from others country (canada), do we, tc veteran really got more chance then others to be in beta??? those questions not really been answered!


And i begin to feel, playing in TC about august will not bring me to test big thing but more lesser patch (like tc2 where we was only padawan 0.o).


I just want to know the true, wich peoples and how they can have more chance to be in beta, is there any restriction to be in (example country)?Are you sure you got time to really make a good beta in september and release it end of october ???


Cause that look like now, we forgot about priority of veteran of tc ,cause they will test the patch 10 no? that coming like the same time!


Thanks for your effort Nicklaus


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Strohm
Thu Jul 15, 2004 5:36 pm
#520




Thunderheart wrote:



I have. I've been going over the details, the history and the effect this announcementis having on the community for some time now. I've spent more than a couple of sleepless nights in the past couple of weeks thinking about this post. It's not easy for anyone involved.






I'm not sure how much more I can take of this game. TH is in an impossible position, but this is intolerable. Based on what I have seen, short term subscriber growth is the top priority at SOE. They are doing everything and anything they can get to lure in new subscribers, but doing almost nothing; in fact HARMING, the current player base. We have been down the road of just how bad customer service is in general at SOE (worst I've ever encountered, in any industry). And TH's post above clearly indicates that they have known this was coming for some time. **edit**? The sheep will not keep paying forever.


I am a project manager, and if I missed dates like SOE does, I would be fired. There seems to be a plan, then there is no execution to the plan. The customers are told one thing, then another, then another. This is very poor service. Is there a project manager? What has happened on this project, too many bugs to fix in too little time, too few resources, what? SOE throwing TH into the fire with a thread like this just isn't going to cut it for much longer. I would bet that there is going to be a measureable decline in subscribers because of this event. My bet is that the bean counters thought it would be better to lose some now and hope to regain them when JTL comes out and most of the bad blood would have been forgotten with a new wave of players.


It was SOE that introduced the hologrind, which nearly destroyed the game. Then they had to spend considerable resources to fix a problem that THEY induced. Then we are told we have to wait for fixes to systems, fixes to bugs, fixes to game play, while the only focus is on new subscribers. You cannot sustain your business model on new subscribers alone, you have to be able to keep people engaged in the game; unless your team really is so slim that the game sale is enough to sustain operations?


Whoever is responsible for this business should be fired. The absolute poor customer service, the failure to meet schedules, and the defamation of the Star Wars experience is horrific. I simply can't believe someone hasn't been fired for this.


I really wanted to wait for the JTL, I had such high hopes, but it is PAINFUL when I consider I am PAYING for four accounts in my house.


This is well beyond TH, SOE should be ponying up an executive to help explain what is going to be done to correct the very poor management of this entire project to gain any credibility with the community. I don't want to hear about publish this or that anymore, that is just empty talk.


WE NEED NEW MANAGEMENT OF THIS PROJECT





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