Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Publish 8: Droids Rebuilt Feedback
Chiturae
Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:53 am
#40
SiliconSmiley wrote:
Great job with these new droids. I can't wait to get my hands on a droid with survey and harvest. I'll report as soon as I do.
Dr. Ewrrl
Don't be to excited to try them out. I already have and have been extremely disappointed. The survey droid takes over 45 minutes to report back and only responds with the type of resource. It is a use and forget item, like a BH seeker droid, but requires a survey device that will be used up also. The harvest droid can only be used by someone who already has novice scout. It would not allow me to harvest the same creature as the droid. The droid is slower than I am, so what is the point.
You can experiment on the speed that it takes to report back at the cost of charges. I was able to make one that took 25 minutes to reprot but with only 5 charges... about 70% experimentation. If you got into the 90% it would probably go as low as 15 min.
Mijamb
Droid Engineer
Farstar
nefarious
Tue Apr 27, 2004 10:55 am
#42
In order to use the barker droid you have to have ad 4 in merchant. I really wouldn't expect to see to many of these, and if you do, it will most likely be "/shout Selling all kinds of uber weapons for prices you can afford, 1k south of coronet, get the WP from my droid" this way you can still have your spamonet.
Songe
Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:11 am
#43
I got a combat/harvest droid, it's pretty sweet actually, as it helps you kill stuff as well hehe.
Good news is, if you use veghast to increase your harvesting skills, the droid will harvest more as well. Good to know! Grouped with it, I was getting the same amount than alone as well... not sure if it's intended.
TheLordRahl
Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:13 am
#44
Well we have tried all but the destroy droid 
we harvest and loot faster than they do. They don't harvest any extra. I can get the resources faster by travelling my self than using a 1 time droid. the medical droid only hold 75 uses went though the heals in 2 minutes. maintenance droid only seems useful if you happen to get a low maintanance email and you happen to have it added to that structure. all in all not much of an improvement. I was really hoping the harvest droid would let you harvest and your droid harvest the creature.
we harvest and loot faster than they do. They don't harvest any extra. I can get the resources faster by travelling my self than using a 1 time droid. the medical droid only hold 75 uses went though the heals in 2 minutes. maintenance droid only seems useful if you happen to get a low maintanance email and you happen to have it added to that structure. all in all not much of an improvement. I was really hoping the harvest droid would let you harvest and your droid harvest the creature.
isycz1
Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:19 am
#45
nefarious wrote:
In order to use the barker droid you have to have ad 4 in merchant. I really wouldn't expect to see to many of these, and if you do, it will most likely be "/shout Selling all kinds of uber weapons for prices you can afford, 1k south of coronet, get the WP from my droid" this way you can still have your spamonet.
All it takes is a handful of spammers (droids or pc's) to make spatial practically unusable. There should be a channel set aside for advertising that you may join if you wish; andhow "does something you can afford" make spamming more acceptable?
NepokaT_Szolo
Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:23 am
#46
The modules are good, but we need new chassis, new looking droids, better combat droids with laser cannons...
everyone know the old droids, we need NEW NEW NEW ones Grrrrrrrr wheres the Astro Mech? Where are the Battle and Super Battle droids????????
..and why gemstone??...
Iam a bid disappointed...
cwhooks
Tue Apr 27, 2004 11:24 am
#47
A weaponsmith who only makes ranged weapons needs 36 different named resources. I'd say only needing 26 would be a blessing... Now if you were to make melee weapons and munitions as well, you are up to I believe 67 named resources... Currently I have 124 different resources I use to run my weaponsmith shop...
Knocky wrote:
26 Named resources are needed to make our droids now. Don't you think this is a little rediculous?
Indene
Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:01 pm
#48
RozhlokLightningskull wrote:
Chianti wrote:also... what was the reasoning behind the harvest droid? from what I can tell, if the droid harvests, the owner cant harvest. if the owner harvests, the droid cant harvest? There doesn't seem to be any reason at all to be using this. If non scouts could use it, it would be effective. If the droid AND owner could harvest, it would be effective.
However, as it stands, only the droid OR owner can harvest? Is that intended?
They harvest better than the owner (but at a level that scales to the owner's ability to harvest) and you can set him to harvest while still in combat with something else. So you kill something, then send your droid to harvest and while your droid is making the trip you can fight off the rest of the mobs that are aggroing you. This makes it a heck of a lot easier to harvest rather than running all over the place trying to figure out who you harvested from and who you didn't.
BTW, there's no way in heck they are going to make this usable to non-scouts. If you want to harvest stuff you'll just have to pick up novice scout with your non-Jedi and harvest.
And if you have ever been on a big hunt and the mob dies close to the fighting it is much safer to send in the droid then to try to run in yourself to harvest.
-Indene-
HaxawHalligan
Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:07 pm
#49
Added Creature Harvester Module to the DE skill tree: This module will allow any character with the Novice Scout ability to program and control an equipped droid to advance on the look-at target of the player and harvest the resources on the creature. The player can preset the droid to harvest one of the three types: meat, hide or bone. Or the player can just let the droid pick a random resource type.
Senseless! The Droids are way to slow and can't keep up with the player when he is riding a bike. Harvesting speed is to slow... target corpse, give harvest command, droid runs (slowly)to the corpseand harvests resources. With that speed the droid should auto-harvest the corpses with access permission within a specific radius around the player.
Novice Scout required to use the harvest modul... no one will use the harvest option if they dont speed up harvesting and can't keep up with players. I would bother with this,ifno Novice Scout skill would be required. The Scout skill makes this module really senseless and is no help for Templates that can not afford 15 skillpoints just to cut a piece of meat/hide/bone off a corpse. Also it is no help for Scouts. They need to run to the missions or to call the droid at the mission wp, causethe droidsare way to slow.
Greetz
Haxaw Halligan
Indene
Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:26 pm
#50
Scoobydont wrote:
How Do I ignore a SPAMbot. Spam has been bad enough now you let people do it twice as much, and now I cant ignore there droids. All I say is BS, I am so close to quiting this game and you all do nothing but make existing problems worse!
Well in my tests of a spamdroid I discovered that (at least for the one I have) It spammed once a min for the first 3 min then dropped off to a much lower rate. I am here typing instead of watching that screen
I should turn on time stamping. Also the battery that came with the droid lasts about 1 hour. All in all I don't think it will last in my datapad. I only am allowed 5 droids and I had to destroy one of my very first ( a med droid I got in my first week ingame ) to make room for it. It is not useful enough to sacrifice another of my first droids. Yes I got 5 of them during that first month cause that was SW to me and I (silly me) presumed they would be useful. -Indene-
FajitaPita
Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:32 pm
#51
Well im still trying to find some significance to this latest pub. I wont go as far as saying it was a waste of time but for myself I don't see anyithing ground breaking or beneficial. I really hope the Devs read these forums. It is very obvious that a majority of the community would like to see the STARport times changed to 5 minutes. I have havent found as reason as to why. I see so many things wrong with this game from playing myself and from reading the message boards. I keep paying 15 a month hopeing things will get better and this game will reach its full potential. And with that I must say this... Common sence must override stupidity... Why are STARport times still the same? I don't log onto SWG to chat and be social at a STARport. The Space Expansion is going to make or break this game IMO and I hope the Devs realize this to. To me I fell like I am part of a ongoing beta test. I don't think this game has reached what it was invisioned to be when it first came out.... and i wonder if it ever will.
Matsubaa
Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:32 pm
#52
I just finally got a new droid. I was very excited to have a droid who could be my partner in crime doing my harvesting and trapping and such.
I found it was nigh impossible to find a droid engineer who wasn't AFK spamming. When I finally did he was only a novice and couldn't make any of the new modules I was interested in. After a couple hours he was able to make a harvesting module in a mouse droid chassis.
I ran out to test it and I find out a couple of things I would have liked to have known beforehand.
The droid doesn't harvest with you, it harvests *as* you. You can't make it harvest any time that *you* couldn't harvest. If you're moving or in combat or anything else, the droid fails to harvest because it isn't harvesting on its own, it is a proxy for your own harvesting, which is good and bad. It means as a master ranger my droid will pick up similar yields to my own. It also means that if I'm fighting something and worried about a corpse rotting before I can get to it, the droid hasn't helped me whatsoever.
Since the droid is harvesting on your behalf it is also harvesting *instead* of you. I send him out to get hide. I try to get bone and it tells me I have already harvested that corpse. So it has offered me *no* advantage versus harvesting myself *except* if I was an AFK macro-harvester using ranged attacks and not wanting to worry about actually approaching my corpses before harvesting them.
I'm disappointed, to say the least. If the trapping module turns out to suck this badly, I'm back to my quota of storage droids and nothing else.