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Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever

jasongorgen
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:48 pm
#482


This is worse than dissapointing.


I rarely take my time to post, but I don't understand who could possibly think that this is a good idea.


This game is missing a PVP scene because the combat system is completely dysfunctional. We need a combat rebalance and we need a GCW rebalance. This Empire is not Divided. It is neutral, plain and simple, and if it is not neutral then it is covert. There is no GCW.


Were we not told all along that JTL had it's own dev team? Why then are we missing two vital publishes for a new expansion?


We deserve a better explanation. This is just plain dumb.





Tenil


Zeon_Zaku
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:49 pm
#483

So now that this is pushed back, is the Smuggler revamp being pushed back yet again as well? Maybe another two years before us Smugglers get some love?



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Twiggy_Gorath
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:50 pm
#484






LittleYoda99 wrote:





Twiggy_Gorath wrote:

Thanks for the update TH!


*points to someone in the crowd*


This guy over here still doesn't get that expansions pay for staff/more staff to program combat revamps and such


Twig








Actually, I think the 6 million buck they bring in every month shoudl go to paying for more staff to fix things and stuff. The expansions are just for extra cash, which they will need because the expansions will be so buggy they will need MORE developers to fix the expansions bugs, on top of the bugs of the original game.



Fix the base game first, THEN work on the expansion.







Actually, looking back at the server populations we used to have last summer post-launch and well into the holiday season, my money is one the bet that this game really needs to sell expansions aka get subscriptions.


If it's new subscriptions first through expansions, 14 day free-trial offers (what other MMOG the scope of SWG does this for *new* accts?) then I'm all for it if it means getting the resources needed to a combat revamp freakin right, ya know?


I think a shakeup like this with TH taking over is a good thing in a dynamic enterprise like an MMOG. SOE isn't new at this game so I'm willing to trust in what they deem necessary to keep the game alive, fun, and profitable.


I'm not taking anything away from any of you folks that are tired of waiting either. We're all entitled to our views here and that just happens to be mine


Twig


Sc0rPs
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:50 pm
#485






WookieIsshe wrote:





Wyyne wrote:

Just to add my voice to this:


Concentrating on the new expansion at the expense of a MUCH needed fix is WRONG.


We deserve to have what we were promised in NOVEMBER before we give you more money for an expansion.





I have never ever in my life seen such whining from people. This game is alot of fun even in its current state. I bought this game after being in beta and have enjoyed it completely. Sure there are bugs. I bet some of you still play UO and to this day (7 years later) are wondering how in the hell that game still has all the bugs it has and complain about it right? Yes, UO has been around for 7 years now and it full of bugs.


This game is only 1 year old and has far less bugs then UO. I think some of you need to get your priorities straight. This is just a game and if you don't like it then just quit and take a break.


I have waited for the space expansion for along time and this game seriously needs it to put the much needed Star Wars theme back there where it should have been at launch.


I have said what I needed to say, other then Great job Devs, I know your doing your best and cannot wait to get into space.








Just for the record, this is not UO. That's apples to oranges, and I played that game for almost 4 years and haven't noticed any bugs.



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Shropt
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:50 pm
#486

The Official "Boycott JTL until they fix the GCW/Combat" Thread


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=GCW&message.id=220134


Don't delete it this time!!




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Sinjion
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:51 pm
#487

I canceled my accounts (all 3 of them) a few months back. I came back because i read that smuggler revamp was coming and the space expansion was close. Now i see the space is being pushed further back and smuggler, who knows.


There is so much that is broke in this game. I am really disapointed that you can't seem to have the time or people to fix this. Your asking us to pay each and every month and at some point you want us to cough up more cash for an expansion.


What have you done to make us want to give you our hard earned money.


I would have to purchase 3 expansions and i can tell you now, as things are going. I really don't see myself doing that.


I see why they left poor TH in charge of these boards. So he can be the one to pass out the BULL.


*listed can you here that?* It's the sound of accounts going Poof poof poof poffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff.



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Adlough
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:52 pm
#488

God Damn It Thunder Heart you piss me off.




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Lord-Maximus
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:53 pm
#489






Lord-Maximus wrote:


your welcome to post your thoughts but please do so in a less flaming manner, thanks.


Message Edited by GarVa on 07-15-2004 01:58 PM





Because I asked the developers to listen to the customers (which I shouldn't have to friggin ask anyways since i and other customers pay your salary)...you refer that to flaming? Give me a break for god sakes!



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gngbng
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:53 pm
#490






LuthianP wrote:





Galiger wrote:

Well I know this post will be lost in the ocean of complaints but I just want to express my enjoyment in the game that you have created. It is unlike any game I have played in the past and in my eye is a very sucessful game. Please just do the best you can do and that is all that anyone, that is reasonable people, can ask.


I have extremely enjoyed the crafting and combat in this game and believe you are doing a wonderful job. People will always be unhappy with what you do... you are dealing with thousands of people - all of which have different ideas, dreams and wishes. You will never make a game that makes everyone happy... so set your goals and run with it, definately don't loss sleep over it... you're no good to anyone sleepy.


Good luck to you Thunderheart, and the rest of the Devs.


I personally thank-you for the game and the work you have done.







How long have you been playing SWG?



I was wondering the same thing. Give it about 6 or 8 months and we'll see if they sing the same tune. Fact is all they did today was screw the old timers. Anyone that's new to this game has no idea what's we're talking about because they haven't dealt with the same trash month after month after month. They haven't PvPed for months, while trying to "create" their own GCW. You should see the people trying to keep PvP alive on Kauri through all of this. The players are they ones I salute, not the Devs.




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Shin_Shodei
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:55 pm
#491

I say... bring jump to lightspeed first.. i need to get off the ground that is this game.. and i need somthing gOOD.... while i wait for the revamp to fix the ground game..




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Zetic
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:55 pm
#492






DFA-FrstbyteOO wrote:




Heres a hint, Hide your jedi better. Ya know,, kinda like jedi did in this time period in Star Wars.. you might just not make the BH terminals that way.





I believe this is a bigger problem than just 'hiding my jedi better'.I always hunt in the middle of nowhere, and I don't run around populated areas in my robe, or with my saber in hand. And I especially dont use force powers around other people. I should have been able to train that skill that I earned, then work off the debt to get the next one.
Vlherg
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:56 pm
#493


Wow, don't think I've seen anything in this game upsetso many peopleso fast before. Can't say I blame them either. For months we've been fed the line "wait for the combat balance" but it's arrival seems more and more unlikely all the time. Even in the last publish, after we protest over the weapon switch delay you saythe time to address it will bein the combat balance. Well, seeing as that won't be anytime soon, how about taking out the delay again?


Can I also make a small request to all the people cancelling? If any of you are on Tempest and have a Nightsister bicep, could I have it before you go please? Acquiring one istop of mymy "things to do before I quit" list.



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Fred_Skinner
Thu Jul 15, 2004 4:57 pm
#494






gngbng wrote:





LuthianP wrote:





Galiger wrote:

Well I know this post will be lost in the ocean of complaints but I just want to express my enjoyment in the game that you have created. It is unlike any game I have played in the past and in my eye is a very sucessful game. Please just do the best you can do and that is all that anyone, that is reasonable people, can ask.


I have extremely enjoyed the crafting and combat in this game and believe you are doing a wonderful job. People will always be unhappy with what you do... you are dealing with thousands of people - all of which have different ideas, dreams and wishes. You will never make a game that makes everyone happy... so set your goals and run with it, definately don't loss sleep over it... you're no good to anyone sleepy.


Good luck to you Thunderheart, and the rest of the Devs.


I personally thank-you for the game and the work you have done.







How long have you been playing SWG?



I was wondering the same thing. Give it about 6 or 8 months and we'll see if they sing the same tune. Fact is all they did today was screw the old timers. Anyone that's new to this game has no idea what's we're talking about because they haven't dealt with the same trash month after month after month. They haven't PvPed for months, while trying to "create" their own GCW. You should see the people trying to keep PvP alive on Kauri through all of this. The players are they ones I salute, not the Devs.





I'm an old timer. I do not feel skrewed. In fact, I feel relieved that they will take the time to do it right.




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