Development Cycle Archive
Thread: SWG Forum Ranking Changes...
Drygo
Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:23 pm
#313
I like the new listing better. I think it more takes into account some of the problems with the first list. I only have two concerns with it. First, I *really* liked the political titles in the first list and I'm sad to see those go, even though I do like the military/pilot ones as well. Any chance of sprinkling in some of those political titles into this list?
Also, I also share the concerns about the one star bandits. I know that you say they have a way of working themselves out. But, just as an example...there was a time, when I actually had a 4.1 rating. I'm not saying that to brag, just giving an example. But, I also mainly kept to the entertainer forums because those are my favorite professions. However, one day, after reading and posting to the forums, I went to play the game for about 5 hours. I then came back to the forums. And, all of a sudden, after a mere 5 hours, my 4.1 ranking sunk all the way to a 3.5. I'm not like this star ranking freak or anything, but as I said in an earlier post I do find these things interesting. So, I looked at my profile, and sure enough, someone somewhere apparently decided that they would go through all of my posts and one star every single one of them. I have not yet recovered from that. And, I know part of the reason is this was at a time when the recursive macro debate started, and I came out in support of getting rid of unattended gameplay. And, I received a huge amount of one stars from that as well. Even when I posted rational, short, non-flaming responses.
Now, I'm not bitter or anything. But, the fact is, there are a lot of people who will one star you just because they don't hold the same opinion, or you said something that set them off. Even if you are someone who tries very hard to never personally attack and to offer well thought out responses. While I do think a 4.0 star rating for the highest level is much, much more attainable than the 4.9 from the original list, which was darn near impossible, I do think that you guys underestimate the one star bandit situation.
I have seen a couple of ideas that I liked...including one that was basically give someone a star if you like it, don't give them one if you don't or feel neutral. And, base the rankings on total stars. Or, have rankings based on stars given and stars received. There was another one mentioned that I liked, but I've forgotten what it was at the moment.
Anyway, just throwing out my two credits. All in all, I think that this list is much better than the first one, and if implemented, would be pretty cool as is. 
RocketM
Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:24 pm
#314
Idon't see howthe post rating system will ever lead to anything except abuse in this game. I can see it already: guilds five-starring their members so they can get board rankings they dont deserveand one-starring people they hate to make sure they don't get the titles they should have. People already regularly one-star messages constantly in auction forums in hope of keeping their competitors messages from being read.
Taidean
Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:47 pm
#315
I dont post much. Guess I'll be on the low ranking totem still. I dont even meet the requirements of post to get a ranking lol sigh.
I guess I need to stop playing and post more , thats what the ranking stuff means? Hmmm.. I see a spam / whine thread coming in the future to increase my postings, since I can probaly get forum status quicker than I can Jedi atm..
OonaAngyl
Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:01 am
#316
GarVa wrote:
Sorry there will be no special spamming title
Oh forgot to add, anyone with a special title will keep it, those are all ranked above this whole tree.
But I wanted the perfectly purple colored star rating 4.2 ambassador title.
quite-gone
Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:13 am
#317
Are you also going to unban those with subsequently minor forum infractions or are they going to stand as they are now as well?
Oceana
Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:14 am
#318
I'm also curious about how the timer works. Namely, tomorrow is my one-year anniversary on the forum. But, I just flipped over to being a Leader today. Is Leader currently 12 months, but it will be 9 months in the new system, or is the timer just off 3 months for everyone?
RazerWolf
Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:55 am
#319
I love the new changes. 4.0 is infinitely more attainable than 4.9, thankyou
TroyBPerk
Sat Aug 21, 2004 12:57 am
#320
This is cool, especially now that I'll know what the ranks mean.
M0n
Sat Aug 21, 2004 1:45 am
#321
Ok, first im sorry for ranting but for the love of god. Do you really think this is what most people want? Jazzing up the forum titles?
Help us obi-wan, your our only hope as it seems the dev's are thinking about forum titles instead of fixing the game ive played for a year.
The right place to rant about this? Ive given up caring. TH, you wanted feedback and ive given it to you.
biwan:
Gam8it
Sat Aug 21, 2004 2:05 am
#323
M0n wrote:
Ok, first im sorry for ranting but for the love of god. Do you really think this is what most people want? Jazzing up the forum titles?
Help us obi-wan, your our only hope as it seems the dev's are thinking about forum titles instead of fixing the game ive played for a year.
The right place to rant about this? Ive given up caring. TH, you wanted feedback and ive given it to you.
well everyone else has tried to educate people to this so i thought i would have a go:
IT IS NOT THE SAME TEAM THAT WORKS ON THE GAME THAT WORKS ON THE FORUM
CHiP2sum
Sat Aug 21, 2004 4:19 am
#325
GarVa wrote:
We are currently in the process of revamping the Forum Ranking System, and wanted to fill you in on how it will work. We are changing it for two reasons. First to add diversity and fun to the ranking system (its pretty slim currently), and to encourage better use of the star ranking system. You can reply to this thread with your thoughts on this system. Please also make sure to read the questions at the bottom to ensure it that I did not already answer it, I will update that part of the thread as the replies come in.
Forum Ranking System
2 Ranking Trees
a Star Ranked tree
a Non star ranked tree
All users under 1 month "New Member"
There are 18 ranks after new member, in the two trees, 9 star ranked and 9 normal ranks.
Posters willget the normal rank -or- if their star ratingis high enough they will get the star rank, star ranks will override any normal ranks. So if you qualified for normal rank 6, but had the appropriate star weight you will have the star rank 6 (Galactic Ambassador). Additionally in the coming weeks we will be adding more avatars and other forum abilities that will be distributed throughout the ranks.
The colors that the line is written in below willbe the "name" color for each rank
Normal Ranked:
Required for rank 1 (Community Member same as current) 1 month minimum 50 post
Required for rank 2 (Sr. Community Member) 3 month minimum75 post
Required for rank 3 (Community Contributor) 3 month minimum100 post
Required for rank 4 (Community Veteran same as current) 6 month minimum125 post
Required for rank 5 (Community Guide) 6 month minimum175 post
Required for rank 6 (Community Elder same as current) 9 month minimum250 post
Required for rank 7 (Community Advisor) 9 month minimum2.75 starrating300 post
Required for rank 8 (Community Leader same as current) 9 month minimum 3.0 star rating350 post
Required for rank 9 (Community Advocate) 12 month minimum 3.0 star rating750 post
Star Ranked:
Required for rank 1 (Advisor) 1 month minimum 3.1 average rating given 50 post
Required for rank 2 (Steward 3 month minimum 3.2 average rating given75 post
Required for rank 3 (Emissary) 3 month minimum 3.5 average rating given125 post
Required for rank 4 (Diplomat) 6 month minimum 3.7 average rating given150 post
Required for rank 5 (Galactic Counselor) 6 month minimum 4.0 average rating given250 post
Required for rank 6 (Galactic Ambassador) 9 month minimum 4.2 average rating given 250 post
Required for rank 7 (Galactic Senator) 9 month minimum 4.5 average rating given 350 post
Required for rank 8 (Chancellor) 9 month minimum 4.7 average rating given 500 post
Required for rank 9 (High Chancellor) 12 month minimum4.9 average rating given 1000 post
Questions I'm sure will be asked, and Answers.....
1. What If I just have my buddies go through and 5 star all my post wont that get me higher up pretty fast?
A: It may help in the short term but the more post ratings you have the less it has an effect on your ranking and will actually hurt you at the Higher post ratings. So the system naturally discourages this type of behavior.
2. What about one star bandits (eq: those that go through one starring every post)
A: Contrary to popular belief, these are 1. rare and 2. have very little effect on the rating or ranking systems. The only thing it hurts is the bandits wrist. It takes 20 1 star ratings to cause a post to be hidden by the default system. Additionally we are putting measures in to be able to track and even "title" these posters so everyone will know who they are. When we findsomeone who abuses the rating systemwe do lower their "rating" weight to prevent abuse.
3. Why are you doing this?
A: We want to encourage to post more responsibly and using the time/post count along with the rating system we can do this. We will also be granting icons, titles and even some privileges based on the new rankings.
4. What if I qualify for normal rank 8 but also qualify for Star rank 7?
A: The highest "rank" you qualify for will be the one you get, regardless of the star side of things... this is due to the fact that your "star" rank can come and go, you will always have your base rank. In the case above you would be Normal Rank 8.
5. Can I choose to stay at my current rank?
A: Sorry but the answer is no, if you qualify for a higher rank you will get it, unless you stop posting
6. What privileges come with my current rank?
A: We will have this list as well as the associated privileges posted when we convert to the new system.
Message Edited by GarVa on 08-19-2004 08:11 AM
Message Edited by GarVa on 08-19-2004 09:29 AM
Jeez, All I would like to see out of the forums is that you devs read them and care...