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Nicktwilight said:
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Sorry bout that my HTML got messed up, I had paragraphs in there really!.
Wow Enix I have to say I TOTALLY AGREE with everything you said, your a sane mind in a sea of winning CH's, I can only HOPE that TH reads your post (I'm sure he will). I am very sadened by the cave in by the developers due of course in part to the constant flamming and crying of CH's.
TH please remember that CH's are ONLY looking out for themselves they dont care about the balance of the game. There are what, 32 other professions in this game that depend on you to balance the game for the rest of us. By simply making it a little harder to level up in the CH tree, that wont balance anything, like Enix said people will get there eventually. I made Master Brawler AND master swordsman in LESS then 1 month. People will simply make Master CH now becuase that is hardly changed.
The same problem will exist in 1 month. Player PETS will be able to seriously out TANK any Player by a LONG SHOT. I dont think you find any CH that could give you a valid reason why this should be the case, but it is the case, why?..You have the ability to change that. I know they will wine that they would no longer be able to solo their way to credit heaven but this is a Multiplayer Game, Not a single player game. If you want single go play Xbox or Playstation.
I know Meele have lots of changes on test to make them stronger and able to 'tank' better. This is an example though of having to retool and rebalance 5 professions to appease one. This game would be great if only the Master meele classes could do the VITAL job of tanking much better then any pet, sadly the gap between the best meele and the best pets is only about what 8000 ham?. The day a master meele can tank a Krayt longer then the best pet is the day there will be somewhate balance, but I dont see that coming for a long time, sadly, and never if the CH's have anything to say about it.
You simply CANT ask the CH's what changes they want then keep coming back to them asking if thats OK, i know you want to have community feedback, but how bout some feedback from someone other then a CH?
Even the initial changes didnt go far enough, please think long term, and realize there are so many CH's because of the imbalance. Maybe you could just remove the armor from pets or something so they couldnt tank as well, why should a Rancor have like full composite armor anyway?. If you remove their armor they will still have the 10k HAM but at least the best meele with nice armor could out tank them.
I can almost bet that this issue will have to be revisited again down the line TH, its just too hard to balance the entire world and 32 other profs around the CH class and their king kong superpets. There is a reason you see 100 CH's for every Pikeman...Im so sick of going everywhere in the game and seeing pets everywhere, players should be the main focus in combat not pets. Then people would actually have to use strategy in fights instead of just 'Send Pets..ok now blast it', because thats what combat has boiled down to, which is a shame because this game has so much potiential. At some point though you have to stick to your guns and make necessary changes for the betterment of the game long term.
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Ok Nick, instead of asking the Dev's to nerf us, why don't you spend your time asking them to fix YOUR class? I've never understood why people SCREAM to the dev's "It's not fair, they're too strong compared to me and what I'm supposed to be" (said in 2yo voice)! I've played MMORPGS for over 7 years and have seen this in game after game. Spend your time in YOUR professions forum asking the Devs to FIX your profession and out of someone elses forum whining that they're to "powerful compared to me." Maybe people are flocking to the CH tree/profession due to the other elite professions being broke. I know that the SL we have in my guild complains that it's broke but he's going to go ahead and master it anyway hoping that the devs will get around to fixing it. I know that the MASTER DE we have says/said the same thing, our BE's are in that boat too. STOP WHINING ABOUT ANOTHER PROFESSION AND ASK THEM TO FIX YOURS!
OMG people, grow up! I liked the changes that WERE going to happen minus the drop in max cl to 60. I LOVE the changes they've come out w/for testing now. I've been aggro'd by MOBs WITH my pets out, I've DIED from MOBs WITH my pets out and hitting it, did I whine about my pistoleer skills not high enough or my pistol not doing enough damage?Oh, that's right,I MUST'VE whined about my being a Wook and having NO armor, thus dying to easily. NO, I sucked it up and kept going. Did my pets occassionally die too from my not being there to heal them? Yep. Did they loose vitality from this? Yep. Have I whined about it? Nope.
Well I am a CH curently 4 4 3 4 and i have finaly read through all the posts in this 12 pages of posts and however many from part 1/2
alot of people are complaining about something they havent seen in effect yet. I have no clue when this patch is coming out but i will probaly be MCH by then.
1. I like the idea's of mounts but i still dont understand what there idea of what levels we will be able to train for our non CH friends
2. Personaly it looks like i will be hunting level 10 creatures for gift creatures for my friends who are crafting professions so they can have a little backup while running to the harvisters
3. wish they would fix alot of the bugs in alot of profesions before pulling out the nurf bat.. but heck..
4. they didnt really NURF the CH profession they just made sure you wanted to master it if you take it
5. doubt if this will change the number of CH's in the game.
if they want to change something i really wish they would change the earthquake pets so they didnt shake the screen that bad.. heck i have seen a big rig truck fall on its side and it didnt shake the earth.
FYI for those upset about 'transfer' going to MCH: You don't need the 'transfer' command to transfer pets. You can do it from the trade window and drop the pet from your datapad into the trade box.
Yay. Everybody wins.
ElegantFunnyMan wrote:
FYI for those upset about 'transfer' going to MCH: You don't need the 'transfer' command to transfer pets. You can do it from the trade window and drop the pet from your datapad into the trade box.
Yay. Everybody wins.
Before everyone else flames you, you should know that that only works if the pet is in the non CH range.
Thunderheart you have made my day
I very much am in approval of the newly updated changes. You've got my support my man keep it up!
Ek-Lady Fox
Master Creature Hanlder (Ahazi)
I think the changes are ok, at least being a Master CH will at last mean something. As Master CH things wont really change for me, I'll still be able to do PvP with a chance of winning.
I would like to know as well what about Kimogilas. The best non usable thing a BE can make. Will they be able to maybe lower lvl of one to 70 or something along those lines?
Not that long ago on a message board not that far away........
NERF WARS
The new proposal looks much better.
However, I still think non-ch should be allowed level 15 pets.
Thanks devs for hearing the cries of us CH's. I actually like the changes now as stated by TH in this Pt 3 thread.
You guys had me worried.
So, we are going to leave this in and instead change the XP-granting function so that you don't get double the XP for having two pets active.
I am also in disagreement with this proposal. It's difficult enough to rise through the upper ranks withthose xp requirements. You have sentanced us to a long laborous toil. Which is unfair. Others get higher ranked weapons to help ease the toil for them in higher ranks. Please reconsider this.
And no, I don't want to hear 'we'll give you double experience but at a lesser rate' .
Otherwise, the changes look much much better. My quesiton is. When will a medic be allowed to pull a medic droid out along with their pet? What levels are you proposing?