Development Cycle Archive
Thread: Great Expectations, Major Schedule Changes and making SWG the finest MMORPG ever
Mono_Cheeton
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:45 pm
#274
I am not much of a poster, but I'm on the boards every day. I loved this game so much. I can't believe how much time I've put into. But things have gone really down hill. All the promises to make things better I have believed. Most of my friends got tired of the promises and have already left. I would not leave though. I believed that with time things would be fixed especially with the promise of a combat rebalance soon. Now it is getting pushed back even more. I will not continue paying $15 for a broken game. The proper issues are not being . I do not like reading these kind of posts myself so I understand people who think I am whining, but this game is worthless now. Bye to everyone who knows me. I gave all my items to someone random person, so no "can i have your stuff." My account is cancelled.
Thorolfsk
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:45 pm
#275
CmdrAsz wrote:
I sense a great disturbance in the force here
Raph Koster moved on a few months ago.
Job adverts for a Lead Engineer and a Lead QA Person recently.
TH gets promoted, needs a new lacy advert.
Q-3PO moves on to new projects, even though he has been on the quiet Assistant producer of this game for a while.
Big Hmmms from me on this delay !
Termoil I sense, good this is not
Same thing is going through my head. You don't reorganize unless something is wrong. And in corporate America reorganization is the last exit before the layoffs start rolling in, but in this case before the consumer starts to cancel, and servers shutdown.
MandalorianArmr
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:46 pm
#276
i saw we boycott JTL until they fix the core game first
who's with me?
Message Edited by MandalorianArmr on 07-15-2004 02:47 PM
Akinoor
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:46 pm
#277
I understand this wasn't an easy decision for you guys but this was the nail in the coffin for me.
To make a long story short, the act of cancelling my two accounts today was directed to Sony and not you.
To make a long story short, the act of cancelling my two accounts today was directed to Sony and not you.
rufnik
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:47 pm
#278
Just as I suspected.
While I don't have time to read the other 300 posts, hopefully someone else has already mentioned this.
You shouldn't make an expansion for this game, while the game remains broken. It should not even be up for discussion, you are not only losing customers, by pawning off a game that isn't what it is/was supposed to be, but by constantly putting off the fixes that are supposed to make it live up to its name.
As long as your superiors continue this route, I don't forsee SWG making it far at all. Someone needs to smack their greedy money grubbing hands and tell them that YOU CANT SELL IT IF IT'S BROKEN. IF YOU ARE, THEN YOU ARE LIEING, CHEATING, AND STEALING FROM YOUR CUSTOMERS.
I hope that they listen. FIX THE GAME FIRST. Nobody should spend money on the expansion, until the game is fixed. BECAUSE, when the expansion comes out, it will also have problems, and you will have to fix them too.
Giolon
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:47 pm
#279
Maybe I'm just a little naive, being a new player and all (new to SWG, but not to MMOs), but it seems to me like the solution is simple:
Delay JtL to December (still in time for Xmas!), and do the combat revamp at the end of August after Publish 10 comes out. Is that really so hard?
annelid0
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:47 pm
#280
I give up.
Every answer to our concerns for the last 8 months has been brushed off with "wait for the combat balance." The combat balance has been pushed aside for every conceivable reason. Were the two publishes devoted to the (admittedly broken) droid engineers more important? Or the two publishes devoted to the small percentage of whining jedi? The enormity of the combat system is the very reason it should be a primary concern, it's not a valid excuse for delaying it until you have more time.
From now on please just tell us to go to hell when we bring up problems. At least that will be honest.
Every answer to our concerns for the last 8 months has been brushed off with "wait for the combat balance." The combat balance has been pushed aside for every conceivable reason. Were the two publishes devoted to the (admittedly broken) droid engineers more important? Or the two publishes devoted to the small percentage of whining jedi? The enormity of the combat system is the very reason it should be a primary concern, it's not a valid excuse for delaying it until you have more time.
From now on please just tell us to go to hell when we bring up problems. At least that will be honest.
Warryyr
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:48 pm
#281
Thunderheart wrote:
Publish 10.2 is focused on the entertainers which features a unique new game experience where entertainers, Dancers and Musicians can perform for an NPC audience for the reward of a new song and dance.Publish 10 is slated for the end of August, but one of the reasons for these delays is to make as much room as possible for extra implementation and testing time.
OK, TH - you need to tell the Devs this. This is, without a doubt, a VERY disappointing addition to the entertainer gaming experience. These "quests" have been on TC, and they'll hold people's interests for about, mmm....a day or two.
You people need to understand that a rehash of the current boring, lame, pointless Entertainer quests with (oh gee) an NPC audience is NOT unique, nor exciting, nor does it really offer any kind of challenge.
For those of you not Entertainers (and there's a lot of you, cuz we're dropping like flies off a Rancor's *ss due to lack of content) here's what these "unique" entertainer quests involve:
1) Theater manager says "play XXX song for me, and then do some flourishes."
2) Go and have 10 people listen to you while you play.
3) Theater manager says "play XXX song for me, then switch to XXX song, and do some flourishes."
4) Go and have 20 people listen to you while you play.
5) Theater manager says "play XXX song for me, then XXX, then XXX and do some flourishes."
6) Go and have 30 people listen to you while you play.
Yuo are teh winn3r! How freakin' exciting.
UMM, NO. Oh, dear sweet lord in heaven, this is not content. This obviously was 2 ideas repeated a bunch of times because none of you could be bothered to look at the thousands of ideas we've submitted to the Dev team, or read our forums (or heaven forbid post on them sometime during this game's life cycle).
Here's an idea - make Entertainers useful, for god's sake. Let us ENTERTAIN. That means no lame repetitive missions just like what we've always had, but we get rewarded with a new song/dance.
JUST GIVE US THE STUPID DANCES AND SONGS ALREADY. THERE'S NO REASON TO MAKE US WAIT MONTHS FOR THESE.
Did Droid Engineers have to complete a dozen odd missions to get their snazzy new droid module schematics?
Did Bounty Hunters have to complete some random missions to get the requirements for Master Scout removed?
Did Image Designers need to run around random cities and find Image Designer managers to get their new hairstyles?
Then why are you making us do missions to get new content that our profession NEEDS TO FULFILL OUR ROLE IN THE GALAXY.
This game's current status is now: FARCICAL
Rencon
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:48 pm
#282
I actually started to think that you, SOE, might be changing your track record.
But no, bait and switch, lie, dissapoint, and ignore the game to fluff it up and flesh out your wallets. JTL will be a joke because nobody will be here to play it. With WoW on the horizon and people in BETA saying things like "wow there I haven't seen a bug yet, its like this game is ready for release", you guys are so beyond **edit**ed.
But no, bait and switch, lie, dissapoint, and ignore the game to fluff it up and flesh out your wallets. JTL will be a joke because nobody will be here to play it. With WoW on the horizon and people in BETA saying things like "wow there I haven't seen a bug yet, its like this game is ready for release", you guys are so beyond **edit**ed.
Talyin
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:49 pm
#283
Sad but hey what do you expect from devs that wasted 3 years of development time in the first place.
LuthianP
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:50 pm
#284
Giolon wrote:Maybe I'm just a little naive, being a new player and all (new to SWG, but not to MMOs), but it seems to me like the solution is simple:Delay JtL to December (still in time for Xmas!), and do the combat revamp at the end of August after Publish 10 comes out. Is that really so hard?
The problesm go far deeeper than a combat rebalance unfortunately hence the outrage of 99% of people on this post.
Matsubaa
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:50 pm
#285
I need to point out again that we as players have been lied to.
Initially when someone let it slip that JTL was stealing resources from the existing game it was denied. Now we know what the truth is and it is again in contrast to what we've been told.
No one should allow this to happen again. We need to demand an apology without promises to do better, penance maybe, but no more promises because they're invariably lies.
Initially when someone let it slip that JTL was stealing resources from the existing game it was denied. Now we know what the truth is and it is again in contrast to what we've been told.
No one should allow this to happen again. We need to demand an apology without promises to do better, penance maybe, but no more promises because they're invariably lies.
Geko26
Thu Jul 15, 2004 2:50 pm
#286
MandalorianArmr wrote:
i saw we boycott JTL until they fix the core game first
who's with me?
Message Edited by MandalorianArmr on 07-15-2004 02:47 PM
Might as well....
JTLS will probably be released and be unplayable with one ship flying around owning every other ship (prolly the lady luck, lol). At that point we will probably be waiting another YEAR for that to be BALANCED!!!!
ARGGGGG