Development Cycle Archive
Thread: SWG Changes Part 2: New GCW Bases and the Planetary Control Meta Game
SOETyrant
Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:01 am
#248
CaileSathinor wrote:
Don't you sleep, Tyrant?
Tyrants never sleep (job requirement).
4Bidden
Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:20 am
#249
WOW!!!! This is finally going to put "Star Wars" into the game. Great job guys.
LgEnder
Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:32 am
#250
SOETyrant wrote:
ThalenCynelles wrote:
Thunderheart wrote:
NasherUK wrote:
Hmm I dont like the idea that people can attack your PVE base while not PvP enabled and destroy it, while you have to sit back not able to be anything.
PvP bases will spawn with very nasty NPCs inside...it won't be a cake walk.
I think he means PvE bases will spawn with very nasty NPCs inside.
There are going to be uber NPCs in the PvP bases so they are not undefended and more of a challenge. What they don't have is external defenses.
What sort of defenses will PvE bases have? You'd think the PvE bases would get the powerhouse NPCs isntead of the PvP, to force people to actively guard their PvP based during vuln times.
Message Edited by LgEnder on 02-03-2005 02:37 AM
Rhadida
Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:43 am
#251
Just want to say WOW, this will be great Keep up the good work guys
Keep up the good work guys
LoKharn
Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:46 am
#252
When i've read this news, i almost have a heart attack...a marvelous heart attack, but a heart attack nonetheless.... 
KaylBreinhar
Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:53 am
#253
The only "naysay" I have about this is the potential for over-cluttering the landscape. By giving out PvE faction bases "free" when you buy a PvP base, and in the case of PvP bases having them cost no lots and give everyone the ability to place three of them, creating an incentive to place as many as possible, you run the risk of the playerbase overcluttering the landscape with these.
Also, what's to stop people from tossing PvP bases up across the Dune Sea and massive flatland areas of Tatooine and using the NPCs to tank Krayts? Not only would this create an imbalance, but bases take up large footprints, and if you don't think people aren't going to use this to completely garrison player cities, you're nuts.
Don't get me wrong, I'm for whatever might breathe life into the GCW, but you might be biting off more than you're thinking about chewing here, guys. I for one don't want to travel to Lok (which, if you haven't noticed, is 80% flatland) or Tatooine only to run into a faction base every 500 meters. :/
Additionally, whatever happened to the Strategic Base? Rather than create an incentive to place as many lag-inducing, spawn-reducing base footprints, why not make Strategic Bases integral to the control and administration of the tactical satellite HQs on a planet? I'd like to think of even Detachment HQs as glorified firebases - that is, not especially important to the GCW as a whole other than establishing boundaries. :/
If you decide to do this, Strategic Bases could even be restricted to only Metropolis-level cities, and could be placed only by a Master Politician who is a mayor of that city. Lastly, inside this Strategic Base should be a starship terminal, and the owner of the base should have the ability to grant landing rights to specific players.
Also, what's to stop people from tossing PvP bases up across the Dune Sea and massive flatland areas of Tatooine and using the NPCs to tank Krayts? Not only would this create an imbalance, but bases take up large footprints, and if you don't think people aren't going to use this to completely garrison player cities, you're nuts.
Don't get me wrong, I'm for whatever might breathe life into the GCW, but you might be biting off more than you're thinking about chewing here, guys. I for one don't want to travel to Lok (which, if you haven't noticed, is 80% flatland) or Tatooine only to run into a faction base every 500 meters. :/
Additionally, whatever happened to the Strategic Base? Rather than create an incentive to place as many lag-inducing, spawn-reducing base footprints, why not make Strategic Bases integral to the control and administration of the tactical satellite HQs on a planet? I'd like to think of even Detachment HQs as glorified firebases - that is, not especially important to the GCW as a whole other than establishing boundaries. :/
If you decide to do this, Strategic Bases could even be restricted to only Metropolis-level cities, and could be placed only by a Master Politician who is a mayor of that city. Lastly, inside this Strategic Base should be a starship terminal, and the owner of the base should have the ability to grant landing rights to specific players.
Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 02-03-2005 05:55 AM
KaylBreinhar
Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:12 am
#254
Better yet, why can't this change incorporate rank at long last, and furthermore, unlock the latter levels of ranks in the progression system - Adjutant and General ranks, anyone?
It would be somewhat petty to think a mere Colonel could purchase and administrate a Strategic Base...a Colonel doesn't even fly Air Force One.
It would be somewhat petty to think a mere Colonel could purchase and administrate a Strategic Base...a Colonel doesn't even fly Air Force One.
Message Edited by KaylBreinhar on 02-03-2005 05:32 AM
Creaturedoctor
Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:22 am
#255
Ok first congrats for the great Job u done last weeks SOE-Team 
A question about the existing Bases....
Existing Base becomes PvE status right?
What about existing Deeds?
Dark_0ne
Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:32 am
#257
Thunderheart wrote : A small group got together and brainstormed with the goal of making a smallish change under the hood that would have a big, positive effect.
At last :-D
the best way of delivering content to the customer without breaking the bank .... or the code !!!! lol
mjPboy
Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:32 am
#258
I can just picture a team of imperial players, roleplaying wih AT-St etc....just spoken to a smuggler friend of theirs.
Smuggler - ' Yes General, it is true, there are two more rebel bases on this planet, it is confirmed. The Rebellion pockets of resistancelives.'
General Imperial Bad@ss ' WHAT, this simply will not do. Scout troopers, comb this planet now, FIND ME THE REBEL BASE, not one rebel will be left standing'
*cue Star Wars music*
AythenGallo
Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:34 am
#259
KaylBreinhar wrote:
Better yet, why can't this change incorporate rank at long last, and furthermore, unlock the latter levels of ranks in the progression system - Adjutant and General ranks, anyone?
It would be somewhat petty to think a mere Colonel could purchase and administrate a Strategic Base, ne pas???
Although I would tend to agree with you in spirit here, as active duty military I can't help butpoint outthat command of an entire base is by no means "petty" for a Colonel. A "mere" Colonel is paygrade O-6, equivalent to a Captain in the Navy, one step below General/Admiral status,andthere arebases out there that arecommanded by O-5s ^_^ The base I'm stationed on is commanded by a Captain, and it's home to the entire Atlantic FLEET. A Flag officer like the Generals you're suggesting (or Admiral in this case) would be the guy actually in charge of the Fleet itself.
A "mere" Colonel is paygrade O-6, equivalent to a Captain in the Navy, one step below General/Admiral status,andthere arebases out there that arecommanded by O-5s ^_^ The base I'm stationed on is commanded by a Captain, and it's home to the entire Atlantic FLEET. A Flag officer like the Generals you're suggesting (or Admiral in this case) would be the guy actually in charge of the Fleet itself.Just a little FYI^_^ Don't let the ease of attaining rank in this game fool you!
KaylBreinhar
Thu Feb 03, 2005 3:34 am
#260
mjPboy wrote:I can just picture a team of imperial players, roleplaying wih AT-St etc....just spoken to a smuggler friend of theirs.Smuggler - ' Yes General, it is true, there are two more rebel bases on this planet, it is confirmed. The Rebellion pockets of resistance lives.'General Imperial Bad@ss ' WHAT, this simply will not do. Scout troopers, comb this planet now, FIND ME THE REBEL BASE, not one rebel will be left standing'*cue Star Wars music*
Or rather..."I'll just use my Rebel alt and find the base in ten seconds. brb."