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Thread: State of the Game... more info...
JustG wrote:Why is the combat balance being put off?
The combat balance is another massive overhaul. We want to get a lot of player feedback from it, and make sure we have it right before we put it in the game (to avoid another Crafting Experimentation situation).
JustG,
My problem and main concern with the delay of the end of the combat revamp / extending of the timeline is that for whatever reasons we have already gotten 'pieces' of the revamp. At least one developer (I'm going to guess TH, but I did not go back and look) has talked about a "painful" period of time where combat changes don't feel right and may or may not throw balance *off* until the end of the revamp. When you first put in some of these changes (bleeds for example), I questioned the need for this limbo period to myself - wondered why it couldn't all wait to go in together, but I didn't say anything on these boards because the end was in sight (pub 8 or 9).
The end is no longer in sight. Not from where I sit as player, paying on a month to month basis and not a game designer planning to be employed on this project for a few years into the future. This isn't my first MMPORG and I can tell you that in terms of my own gaming habits pubs 9 or 10 are a lifetime away.
So, given these timeline changes that you've announced with the combat balance can you please tell us if you plan on doing anything to lessen the pain of this "painful period"* now that it will be lasting 2 or more times longer then you first planned on? Have you thought about reversing any of the changes you've made to combat in the next pub and releasing them again later on when the end is closer now that you know they work?
* your (well, one of the devs words, possibly TH) words, not mine, describing the time period we have "broken" bleeds and other balance changes that wont make sense till its all done.
Ninetx wrote:
About when can weexpect to see the Jedi revamp. I not asking you to put anything in stone just an idea.when
Still no one has said whether the jedi changes are going to take into consideration how far along into the silent holo grind a player is. That's the scary thing about all the jedi business, we might be grinding in vain despite TH's assertion that what we are doing will actually matter.
The thing is, CSR's have been saying the new system will take into consideration if you have done your holos, which means the months someone spent between their last holo and grinding profession #25 will have no impact on their jedi pursuit.
And no one has bothered to tell us why the entire notion of the jedi slot is being taken from us and we will be left with the same character we've had for the last 6 months.
I know SOE has to be tight lipped about the jedi thing. But for a lot of us, that is why we still play the game. If the only reason we're still here is being changed over the next 3 months, we deserve to know some of the quality and justifications of those changes.
let me add my 2 cents too ![]()
1)why can't jedi guardians 4444 learn master box ?
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on the point 1) jedi guardian 4444 to master i had a discussion with Q3PO and thunderheart at the swghoc and they aknowledged that the weren't aware of that bug!
i can point to 1000 posts on jedi board ponting that bug and the guys on contact with US aren't aware ?
we deserve a list of actual bugs!
STOP with this already! How many times do they need to say they will NOT post a list known bugs?!?! Show me ANY other MMORPG that has a list of known bugs posted for everyone to see. You can't can you?
Vigeant wrote:
why don't you post a list of aknowledge bugs so we can go on ?
i mean people yell at bugs again and again... why don't you just post a list so WE know at least that you are aware of it.
If you don't want to post this list because some can be used as exploits then it should be priority 1 and not fixed in publish n+5.
in all cases i pay for a beta game that doesnt even give me an idea when the beta is over.
Ok there's many requests to be made here but let me push my most pressing. This is the one that has me ready to retire my character and move to other games.
Poison/Disease incaps and DECAY setting in.
If a combat medic hits you with both and doesn't DB you, you will get decay. Could there be anything more contradictory to a "no griefing policy"?
Shadowtalker wrote:Some of us are kinda stuck into hologrinding... we know it will unlock if we do all the professions.... this takes time and some of use would like to know how long we have (roughly) till we can expect this change.Can you give us a ETA JustG? At the rate publishes are being pushed out I'm thinking 3 months from now?
I can certainly sympathize with this person, and I'm still working with holos that give me clues! Any indication so those of us caught in the middle can fish or cut bait? Can you talk a little bit more about what holo-grinding up until the change will result in given the new system, A.K.A. how does current holo "quest" status directly change where the character is in the new system? Perhaps just a badge that says "Holo-ground Jedi?" for those that are grandfathered in? Just kidding! I think this comes down to people needing to know that being 50% of the way through your list of holo-professions puts you at 50% of the quest complete.
Definite answers for most professions are needed, as there really can't be any change until everyone quits holo-grinding. Until then the crafting/resource gathering/hunting systems will be slanted as they are currently. Holo-grinding sized blocks of resources are still the order of the day on Bloodfin. The only people that stopped cold turkey are the fighters that got crafting professions and the crafters that never wanted to fight anyway. It's even more maddening for those with silent holos...
Gary,
You nuked creatures drastically as part of this rebalance that is now on hold, pending "player input".
Here's my player input: Unnerf the creatures. Put them back where they were before you swung your nerf bats and borked the con system and crippled CH. Your now coitus-interruptus "rebalance" is what broke CH, and the promise was that the drastic change to creatures would all make sense once the rebalance was complete. Now we're being told that completing the rebalance is on hold.
Which means we've been nerfed, nerfed drastically, and we and we alone have been "rebalanced". There is no balancing for anyone else. You've cripped CH, and your absolutely unapologetic for it.
Why don't you just get it over and delete the profession now. It's obviously what this "rebalance" was intended to do all along.
Also, I highly recommend you kill the star system permanently. It's being used by fanboi fascists to suppress dissent, and SOE is aiding and abetting this suppression of anyone who dares to raise uncomfortable questions. I fully expect the fanboi thugs to one star this post.
BTW, I'm also getting very angry at the refusal of the Lithium system to allow me to use the avaliable tools to quote prior posts and then post them because "You're not allowed to use HTML". I'm only using the stock tools, and it prevents me from posting conveniently and intelligently. This is frankly becoming intolerable.