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Thread: IT- 7-14: Bounty Hunter Jedi Tracking Missions

Warp1001
Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:54 am
#14






Thunderheart wrote:








Veeballs wrote:

This is probably not the correct place to post the question, but what the heck.............Are NPC jedi bounties going to be added into this system also, I know it was rumored a while back? (Not that I am afraid to go after PC Jedi's :smileytongue



As I understand it, NPC Jedi missions were always available







TH, the mission difficulty stops at investigation 3 ... Tanks bugged it though , because he was led to believe that harder NPC missions would be at MBH with a payout increase too.


Fact is level 31 or 32 is tops, Those marks die to a MBH in 10 seconds or less. Even those bh's who haven't mastered bh feel they are wimpstoo.
So, right now there are no Jedi NPC missions available to BH. I hope you can talk to tanks and the dev team to change it though.



Atteke
Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:50 am
#15




What are your experiences with the Tracking Speeds and droid response?



Message Edited by Virrago on 03-02-2004 09:59 AM



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Renairdor
Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:35 am
#16






Delii wrote:

Mr Thunderheart,


Q1. How long will PC Jedi mission stay onBH terminal? and why?

Q2. How long will PC Jedi mission stay in a BH's datapad? and why?

Q3. If a BH killed his Jedi bounty, will the mission deem failed to other BH who have it?

Q4. If a Jedi killed his BH, will the BH (and other BH) lose their bounty mission?

Q5. How does the visibility stuffs work? just a brief clue will do



thanks for your time,

and keep up the fantastic work!







Thanks for posting this. These are all questions myself and many friends would like some information on.


Scenario A: 3 BH get a mission on a Jedi. Is that possible? Is there only 1 mission for a Jedi , or can 3 or more take it? Is it exploitable so 20 BH could feasibly get the same mission on a Jedi, group up and then gank the fellow, each getting 150k credits?


Scenario B: If more then one BH can get the mission , and one gets killed, does the mission continue for the rest, or is it cancelled? What if the BH are grouped up? Will this frustrate BH?


Scenario C: What about group TEF? If a Rebel BH attacks a Rebel Jedi, and has Rebels in his group- do they get a group TEF to attack the Jedi? What about the Jedi Rebel friends?


How I envision it to work is:


a) Only one BH gets the mission on a Jedi


b) The BH can group with other members to help deal with stronger Jedi


c) Jedi members are in their group and can help protect them from attack


d) In a perfect world, I would like to see Jedi able to pick a faction, and then neutral BH, or BH of the opposite faction, able to hunt them. Group members with the BH, who are of opposite faction to the Jedi, will be able to attack. Group members with the Jedi need to be of same faction as the Jedi. This creates a battle where the BH team and Jedi team are opposite factions, and engaging in a high level factional PvP engagement.


e) Visibility: Visibility is gained by the Jedi being targeted by a player of the opposite faction while they are Jedi TEF'd. This can be a Covert or Overt Imperial in the case of a current Jedi Initiate. Using force powers while targeted by a player of opposite faction raises visibility very fast. (I have a feeling this is how it's supposed to work, but no one has come out with a clear explanation...)


Please test the whole BH vs Jedi as best as possible before it goes live, this is oneof those super-sensitive issues to quite a number of players. I know too many BH and Jedi 'fed up' with the current system, but there is potential to really make it work, have some common sense rules, and be a ton of fun. I'd be more then happy to character copy my Jedi and a few friends master BH over to test, but I guess there are some technical issues to that


Ren


Atteke
Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:29 pm
#17



How I envision it to work is:


a) Only one BH gets the mission on a Jedi


b) The BH can group with other members to help deal with stronger Jedi


c) Jedi members are in their group and can help protect them from attack


And whats to stop your groupie Bounty Hunter taking the mission off the terminals then letting you incapp him to clearTEF and making it impossible to hunt you?. the mission should show on the terminals for a half hour which can be be taken by any BH who see's it then the first BH who kills the Jedi gets the reward and clears the mission for the other Bounty Hunters.




Colonel Atteke Runningmoon
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Renairdor
Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:30 pm
#18






Atteke wrote:



How I envision it to work is:


a) Only one BH gets the mission on a Jedi


b) The BH can group with other members to help deal with stronger Jedi


c) Jedi members are in their group and can help protect them from attack


And whats to stop your groupie Bounty Hunter taking the mission off the terminals then letting you incapp him to clearTEF and making it impossible to hunt you?. the mission should show on the terminals for a half hour which can be be taken by any BH who see's it then the first BH who kills the Jedi gets the reward and clears the mission for the other Bounty Hunters.







I agree that this should not be allowed.



One thing I actually like is obscured Jedi names.


So John the Jedi is Shown as something else. Let the Droids do the tracking. BH tend to warn Jedi about them being on the terms these days anyways. I don't like to see that either- they could just log out.


This also would prevent 3 BH getting the same Jedi mission- if the names are somehow randomized, it would avoid exploiting. Hopefully there will always be more then 1 Jedi on the BH boards. It would get silly if there is only 1 Jedi on the boards, and 500 BH compete to be the first to kill them... a large number of those BH will be very angry totake a mission they will likely never complete,wasting droids and credits on travel, and time, for no chance at a kill.


At least if there is only 1 bh/mission, and some sort of timer- you know YOU have the chance to complete the mission.




BHM
Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:57 pm
#19

I'd like to know if Jedi tracking has been tested already...


By the way







Atteke wrote:



How I envision it to work is:


a) Only one BH gets the mission on a Jedi




This is totally wrong: a Jedi could use his main or a BH friend to take his name off from the terminals. But I agree that if a BH kills the Jedi the mission must disappear from the terminals and the datapads of the other BH andthe Jedivisibility must go down to zero.





Andros Celsum ~ Master Bounty Hunter ~ "It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both."

lifeisdeath
Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:40 pm
#20






Seshemw wrote:
Excellent fix.
I truly truly hope you've also fixed that 10 bounty hunters can take a contract on the same Jedi, but that Jedi being killed by any of the ten leaves him on the mission list of the other 9 (so he could actually be cloning center camped, or rack up 10 deaths (or 20 if he goes linkdead during them), for one visibility breach).




im sorry, but you deleted my posts and left thislie here?


come on. can you guys point to one post in here that is about testing the jedi tracking with droids?



better delete them all, as none have to do with the topic.





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Ghost151
Tue Mar 02, 2004 4:56 pm
#21

To all the Jedi players posting here. STOP. The Dev's do not want nor care about your opinion or legitimate questions concerning the BH's abilityto track Jedi or any other Jedi issues with the upcoming patch.


This was a 3 page thread this morning with several posts asking legitimate questions about Jedi issues that are not being addressed with specific regard to BH Jedi tracking and player missions.


The Dev's do not care. They are more concerned about handing Jedi to the BH's on a platter for a few weeks before we are griefed enough and players lose enough skills (which they are not going to just give back even in instances of player griefing) that they say they will take a look at it.


Apolo13
Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:57 am
#22

any BH should take the mission untill the jedi target is dead . then the mission should delete from all datapads .
Atteke
Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:26 am
#23







BHM wrote:

I'd like to know if Jedi tracking has been tested already...


By the way







Atteke wrote:



How I envision it to work is:


a) Only one BH gets the mission on a Jedi




This is totally wrong: a Jedi could use his main or a BH friend to take his name off from the terminals. But I agree that if a BH kills the Jedi the mission must disappear from the terminals and the datapads of the other BH andthe Jedivisibility must go down to zero.






Sorry i buggered up the quote it looks like it was my idea that only one BH should hunt a Jedi it was actually a Jedi who said onlyone Bounty Hunter should hunteach Jedi then i quoted him and underlined the quote to tell him about the expliot sorry for the mix up. (it was my 19th Birthday so i was a little drunk )




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BHM
Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:50 am
#24

Oh yes sorry m8,I figured it out but it was too late... and since I'm not a veteran I couldn't edit the post



Andros Celsum ~ Master Bounty Hunter ~ "It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both."

Atteke
Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:11 am
#25






BHM wrote:
Oh yes sorry m8,I figured it out but it was too late... and since I'm not a veteran I couldn't edit the post




Don't worry about it i'll cancel the Bounty on you and being a Veteran wouldn't help because the edit feature doesn't work in these Dev threads.




Colonel Atteke Runningmoon
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JavaHulk
Wed Mar 03, 2004 8:33 am
#26






Delii wrote:

Mr Thunderheart,


Q1. How long will PC Jedi mission stay onBH terminal? and why?

Q2. How long will PC Jedi mission stay in a BH's datapad? and why?

Q3. If a BH killed his Jedi bounty, will the mission deem failed to other BH who have it?

Q4. If a Jedi killed his BH, will the BH (and other BH) lose their bounty mission?

Q5. How does the visibility stuffs work? just a brief clue will do



thanks for your time,

and keep up the fantastic work!






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