Development Cycle Archive
Thread: The Path of the Jedi: Reckoning of Effort
galandroxxx
Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:05 pm
#2393
ThunderHeart care to comment on how some on who has done 1 theme park and only 4 holo profesions can be higher in the checkforce check then me when i have done 4 holo profesions 3 more profesions the same theme park and 41 poi's ? can any one tell me how this ends up working out ? i did more profesions and more badges the same theme park and he is higher up the ladder then me is this a bug or the way SOE intended ? the less you work the more you get ?
Im not wanting ahead of any of the holo grinders i jsut want to know why some one that worked less then me is higher up on the ladeder
Tatep
Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:28 pm
#2394
I just got 4 branch unlocks, im happy with those.. but i did those unlocks before i went out for one of the qeusts, this qeust unlocked ''ranged accuracy'' but since i already had that entire tree i dont really unlock anything, am i kinda screwed here? will this cost me an extra 3 weeks? i didnt know that this qeust was able to unlock anything that i already was fully trained in.
Lord_Dorchadas
Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:25 pm
#2395
Has anyone gotten the exit quest yet:
if so....
about how long after filling the 6 branches did you get it?
if so....
about how long after filling the 6 branches did you get it?
LolaFette
Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:24 pm
#2396
The Credit system is messed up!!!!!! totally.....
K, heres the deal, I'm posting this here because CSR chris told me too...
My friend mastered 2 holocron professions (pre-publish 9 before they were silent) when she opened her third, it was a profession she had no intrest in doing, so she stopped there. did no more professionsbefore the launch of publish 10. so at launch she had in total 2 holocron professions completed
Me, I did 4 holocrons, then opened my silent ( once again pre-publish 9) between the time of opening my silent and the launch of publish 10 i mastered an additional 14 professions, 19 in total. I'm sure somewhere in that extra 14I had a holo professions or two.
Now to the launch of publish 10, we both were glowing on the first day, we both got visited by the old man, both did the sith thing, but when she got to the village she got 4 trees of credit,I got 3...**edit**???? the first CSR gave me some lame excuse on how it was game machanics...lol... like this game is perfect and doesnt have bugs, the second CSR told me to post here....Dunno how its going to help, but heres my post
Not to mentionI have another friend that mastered 3 holocron professions and got no credit at all...Game machanics huh?
I just want what fair, i worked hard to earn the credit i should get.....
Tempist-Rebirth-
Hockerbrecht
Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:31 pm
#2397
LolaFette wrote:
The Credit system is messed up!!!!!! totally.....
K, heres the deal, I'm posting this here because CSR chris told me too...
My friend mastered 2 holocron professions (pre-publish 9 before they were silent) when she opened her third, it was a profession she had no intrest in doing, so she stopped there. did no more professionsbefore the launch of publish 10. so at launch she had in total 2 holocron professions completed
Me, I did 4 holocrons, then opened my silent ( once again pre-publish 9) between the time of opening my silent and the launch of publish 10 i mastered an additional 14 professions, 19 in total. I'm sure somewhere in that extra 14I had a holo professions or two.
Now to the launch of publish 10, we both were glowing on the first day, we both got visited by the old man, both did the sith thing, but when she got to the village she got 4 trees of credit,I got 3...**edit**???? the first CSR gave me some lame excuse on how it was game machanics...lol... like this game is perfect and doesnt have bugs, the second CSR told me to post here....Dunno how its going to help, but heres my post
Not to mentionI have another friend that mastered 3 holocron professions and got no credit at all...Game machanics huh?
I just want what fair, i worked hard to earn the credit i should get.....
Tempist-Rebirth-
This sounds exactly like what I had two posts above.
Can We PLEASE get some feedback on the credit system.
As according to TH's initial post to what credit we would be due, we are all getting screwed.
Or is it secretly that they decided to take it from how many profs you had done on April Fools Day!!!!!!
Tzaze
Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:27 pm
#2399
This is a terrible way to give credit. Who puts in more effort? A person who gorund 3 holo professions or a person who ground 3 regular professions? The asnwer, IT IS THE SAME. give credit based on the total number of professions mastered. That is the true measure of effort. I don't care how long u have been in the game. People ground out professions because they knew that was the sacrifice required for Jedi. I have no problem with that. Follows the no pain no gain theory. However, since SWG kindly decided to not figure out how credit would be given until like the day before publish 10 came out, that screwed everyone over who worked hard to master as many professions as possible based on the current rules of the game. Then u tell us that it is holos only. So in theory, a person who only ground 4 holos and 1 other professions put in more effort than me who ground 8 and had no holo casue they were silent. How is that fair.Here is my proposed and absolutely andunequivacobly (not sure if thatis a word, but what the hell) fairway to give creditSince u need 6 FS branches, we will use thatas the divisor.. Now since 6 does not divide nicely into 32, we will use 30 are the numerator Take 30 and divide by 6. That gives you a nice round number of 5.Easy enough to work with. Now, for every 5 profs umastered, u shouldfull credit for 1 block of the FS quest. For the next professionmastered, give credit of being able to do the next village quest at the same time. Then 1 block of FS credit for each subsequent profession. If a personmastered 10 professions, give credit for 2 full blocks. Following this rationale, everyone would get a proportional amount of credit based on the only thing we as players can know for sure, how many professions we mastered. Give everyone that did 30 or unlocked pre 10 their full 6 boxes. I have no problem with that. They earned it. I personally busted my butt to master 8 professions since I learned of how to become a jedi and such about a month ago.And I got no credit becasue holocrons were silent and I couldn;t even do my three known holocrons. This is fair to all players across all time periods in my opinion as their are no hidden values in this equation like in yours. Please consider this a option. I am still unsure if you actually read theses posts. This is my first one. I think this is as reaosnably fair as it can get and I welcome any player or developer feedback on this idea. I think a lot of people will agree with me that this is better.
Draze Volta
Tempest Server
TKM/Master Brawler/MasterPistoleer/
zual
Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:02 pm
#2400
(sigh) Still waiting on the sith....
"Hard to see, the Dark Side is....."
zual
Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:03 pm
#2401
(sigh) Still waiting on the sith....
"Hard to see, the Dark Side is....." -- Master Yoda
AndarDedev
Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:20 pm
#2402
Ok here is my dillemna. It will be greatly apreciated if someone responds to this. I am already in the village and started on of the quests. I have converted all my spare xp to force sensative xp and i got novice combat prowess. Here's my question though. Does doing the quest fill in the boxes as you go along? Or, do i still have to constatly grind out 100s of hours upon hours of reg xp to convert later? This is not making sense to me, so if someone could explain this it would be greatly apreciated.
Andar Dedev <Jed-I> (intrepid)
O-my
Fri Sep 03, 2004 9:22 pm
#2403
Should i be worried if i got a visit early, but still havent gotten visits by the sith?
FamineX
Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:00 pm
#2404
ok so i play the game quite often, when ever i find some extra time. I really enjoy the game and it has had its ups and downs, but i dont have massive amounts of time to do hologrinding. not the time it takes to grind out 18+ professions anyway. So i was really excited that they were going to revamp the system to maybe help me out. Ya know i thought COOL its going to be alittle bit easier to get jedi. so i busted my butt to get all the requirements i needed to be able to get into the city asap. i did... i got a visit from the old man within 2 days of glowy, and got the sith to visit within 24 hour of the old man visit.
I get to the city, wow cool all the people, and things to do. i converted my xp and learned combat prowess. Awesome! so i start doing the mission for combat. finish that. and find out i can only do 1 quest per cycle...
ok well thats not so bad... do some looking up... find out the things i want are mostly on the 2nd phase..
phase1 (nothing i want)
phase2 (3 skills i want)
phase3 (1 skill i want)
phase4 (2 skills i want)
total (6 branches)
ok no problem except i can learn more than 1 at a time so i have to go through the freaken cycles 3 TIMES...
if we will pretend, because nobody that i have read was 100%sure, that the phases take 3 weeks each
phase1 (nothing i want)
phase2 (3 skills i want)
phase3 (1 skill i want)
phase4 (2 skills i want)
total (6 branches)
ok no problem except i can learn more than 1 at a time so i have to go through the freaken cycles 3 TIMES...
if we will pretend, because nobody that i have read was 100%sure, that the phases take 3 weeks each
we are on phase 1 (3 weeks) (no branch)
phase2 (3 weeks)(1 branch)
phase3 (3 weeks)(1 branch)
phase4(3 weeks)(1 branch)
that would get me 3 branches, lets continue
phase1 (3 weeks)(no branch)
phase2 (3 weeks)(1 branch)
phase3 (3 weeks)(no branch)
phase4 (3 weeks)(1 branch)
phase3 (3 weeks)(1 branch)
phase4(3 weeks)(1 branch)
that would get me 3 branches, lets continue
phase1 (3 weeks)(no branch)
phase2 (3 weeks)(1 branch)
phase3 (3 weeks)(no branch)
phase4 (3 weeks)(1 branch)
good that gave me another 2 branches for a total of 5 branches... continue? SURE
phase1 (3 weeks)(no branch)
phase2 (3 weeks)(1 branch)
phase1 (3 weeks)(no branch)
phase2 (3 weeks)(1 branch)
ok here we have all of my 6 skill branches i want...
and it is now 30 weeks later... OR almost 8 months.
Thats asuming i grind the heck out of xp and convert it over in the 3 week window they were so generous to give me.
so because i didnt have the time to grind like mad on prof. i am being punished with a time limit/ waiting period?
ya know i use to do game design as well and i understand it takes time to "work things out" but come on. if i didnt have time to grind before what the heck makes you think im going to have time to do this system?
I think we can agree that everyone is worried about the overflow of jedi. yes? so bring back perma death among jedi and up. that way padawans have time to grow. Create a special shrine you can go meditate at to regain lives, but you can only regain so many so fast and have a cap on how many you can have. that way jedi can go there if they are smart... if they are killed then sorry no more jedi... something to this extent . whatever. I feel that i pay just as much as a person who can play 24-7 i shouldnt have to work extra hard now.
and it is now 30 weeks later... OR almost 8 months.
Thats asuming i grind the heck out of xp and convert it over in the 3 week window they were so generous to give me.
so because i didnt have the time to grind like mad on prof. i am being punished with a time limit/ waiting period?
ya know i use to do game design as well and i understand it takes time to "work things out" but come on. if i didnt have time to grind before what the heck makes you think im going to have time to do this system?
I think we can agree that everyone is worried about the overflow of jedi. yes? so bring back perma death among jedi and up. that way padawans have time to grow. Create a special shrine you can go meditate at to regain lives, but you can only regain so many so fast and have a cap on how many you can have. that way jedi can go there if they are smart... if they are killed then sorry no more jedi... something to this extent . whatever. I feel that i pay just as much as a person who can play 24-7 i shouldnt have to work extra hard now.
i mean if anything get rid of the phase thing, or the "time limit" 
You will lose a lot of people when they sit down and realize whats going on including me.
You will lose a lot of people when they sit down and realize whats going on including me.
Drunkenjedi420
Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:25 am
#2405
Jasynn Wrote:
During the past 14 months, I have endured a lot of change...some good...some terrible. Through all this i have kept my cool and stuck with the game. Now, for the first time, I am leaning heavily to finishing out this month and cancelling my account. I think that after all the waiting and hard work [I have glow...I have half the hologrind done...been playing for over a year] That it toally sux that guys playing for a few weeks have had their visits and are doing the village while I continue to wait for the lousy old man. I have finally had enough!
I dont blame you - I have been playing the same amount of time every single night for hours. Im not cancelling my account - But If anyone asks me what I think of Star Wars Galaxies I will tell them Its ok - its fun - but it could have been better then anything out there.
It just seems to me they are short on manpower at this point....
WE HAVE A FOOKING POST WITH OVER 100 PAGES... this is serious doggie doo doo...
Very Serious...
Its like that commercial where the guys servers blow up because he couldnt estimate his server load would double each month and didnt have the mental capacity to consider alternative objectives to increase his potential from the Currentnegative state.
When running a Orginization of this size there shouldnt be any problems. You guys are on Sony's payroll - They are one of the biggest - just how long will they carry you guys if enough Negative output is driven into this project. The company is driven by creative people all over the world doing creative things. I feel they are putting the heat lamp on you guys. They have had just about enough. Im sure Lucas Arts is also watching closely. It would be a HUGE embarssement if Star Wars Battlefront hits center Stage and Kicks SWG out the cantina. Do you guys even think about this... Tighten up on everything ... really chances are running out.
I just hate to be so blunt but I like you guys and you need to speak out to top levels if you feel you need to work the way you need to work. Your all creative - have some balls and carry out the project the RIGHT way or Quit it and stop **edit**ing with peoples heads that sit here and give you thier trust and real life time...
Im sorry for anything negative in this post - its not meant in a bad way at all. Its just very blunt.
-Sazo