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Thread: Jedi Revamp Phase I

DeadlyBlue
Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:01 pm
#157

Hey all you Hologrinders you knew that the publish was coming you were warned. If you could not grind 32 profs in a couple months than you knew you will be doing the quest....So WHAN WHAN WHAN Crya me a Freeking river!





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SPYDER068
Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:02 pm
#158

All this sounds like is the game is gonna go completly to **edit** with everyone being jedi, Your making it so easy to get now its gonna make it worthless to play...


I sometimes wonder if you guys even think before you put a patch out...


Ive played this for a long long time now... It was getting alot better now your doing this ?? Just great



Have fun all you holo grinders youve wasted a TON of your time if you dont unlock soon.




MarkLordoftheSith
Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:12 pm
#159

Don't forget that at that time, it was taking perhaps 15-20 professions to unlock, DeadlyBlue, not 32. Please try and post constructive things on the boards rather than trying to get a rise out of someone. Thanks.
Markarian
Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:13 pm
#160

F****** great! As it stands now, after what TH has said, those of us who have mastered XX professions won't get ANY kudos for that accomplishment! ....... ARG!


Nice way to offend us... indeed.



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cyman31
Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:24 pm
#161

if you ask me why do you need to change the jedi system at all.. i have seen one jedi since i have been playing.. granted only since the start of the year.... but who wants to start loads of jedi's runing round.

I feel that the new system will bring aninflux of jedi running round everywhere..what with everyone being attuned to the force etc.. how many people were attuned to the force in the films.. 2 that i can remember luke and leia.. so y give us all this force sensativity to follow.. i just hope u get the system right is all.





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Arconis_Runicblade
Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:28 pm
#162

Thunderheart first I want to say thank you to you for all the hard work and dedication you have given to our community. We can be harsh at time this I know and you have a hard job. I personally could not think of reading over 300 posts a day and finding all the good things to send the higher ups. You certainly deserve a big pat on the back *pats thunderheart on the back* you rock man!


ok now to my point of interest which is dark side and light side...


The current system just has it as faction and you "choose" to become a Dark Jedi or stay as a Light Jedi....


This is my purposal...


Every action you take will give you Dark Side or Light Side points... such as starting combat against an unarmed foe... Dark Side faction, completeing a quest for a elderly man who just wants to see a painting on last time would give you light side faction. These will determine if you are a Dark Jedi or a Light Jedi at a certain point...


for example...

at 100 - 90 you are strong in the light side

at 89 - 70 You are on the path of light but still have much to learn

at 69 -10 You have just begun the path of the light

at 9 - 0 You are neutral to the Dark and the Light

at-1- -9 The dark taint has begun to lure you

at -10 - -29 The Dark taint is strong within you yet you still feel the soothing light.... yet it fades quickly

at -30 - -39 The Dark side has taken control and you have been corrupted by its power

at -40 - -79 The Dark side's power can be felt within you and none dare stand against you

at -80 - -100 The Dark side is stronger in you then in most, your power shatters the very will of the force



Ok now powers should be aligned to the dark and light... and your standing shouldn't be affected by power use... however, force point cost should be... to make it harder for dark jedi to use healing powers and light jedi to use destructive powers...


For example... (and I'm not a jedi so these force points are not going to be right) Lets say Force Speed costs 20 Force Points... and the jedi has 100 Force influence(yeah i like that name biwan: ) Thus the force speed would not cost 50% less or10 Force Points... This will encourage the jedi to become either fully dark(very Easy) or fully light(Very hard)... however.... if the same jedi were to use Force Lightning for sya 100 force points then the cost would be increased by 100% to 200 Force Points. This makes it so it is easier for the jedi to use light powers but incrediably taxing to use dark powers....


Light powers should be things such as

Force Healing

Force Wound Healing

Force Defense(This is going to be asked for later)

Mind Trick


Dark Powers should be things such as

Force Lightning

Force Drain


anything really destructive... also there should be core jedi powers also known as neutral...


such as

Force Speed

Saber Throw

All saber powers...


Ok now that I have that out... and feel free to play with those numbers... lets go into how the force mastery influences powers...



at 100 - 90 = 50% decrease inLight Side cost, 100% Increase in Dark Side cost

at 89 - 70 = 40% decrease in Light Side Cost, 80% Increase in Dark Side cost

at 69 -10 = 30% decrease in Light Side cost, 60% Increase in Dark Side cost

at 9 - 0 = 0% decrease in Light Side cost, 0% increase in Dark Side cost

at-1- -9= 30% decrease in Dark Side cost, 60% increase in Light Side cost

at-10 - -29 = 40% decrease in Dark Side Cost, 180% increase in Light Side cost

at -30 - -39= 50% decrease in Dark Side cost, 100% increase in Light Side cost

at -40 - -79= 160% decrease in Dark Side cost, 250% increase in Light Side cost

at -80 - -100= 200% decrease in Dark side cost, 400% increase in Light Side cost.


ok now remember how the dark side is easy yet destroys you in the end? yeah? good! That why Dark side is so much more different then light side.... As you can see at mastery of Dark side you will be paying very little force to use destructive powers... yet if you heal you'll be wasting many many force points... that is the point of this... as Dark Side is the easier and more alluring path it emphasizes destruction... thats all I'll say on this I think its a good idea though, but comments are welcome.


Ok I have two more comments and my long rant will end =)


Lightsaber damage type has been mentioned time and time again... Kinetic... please change this to either energy or a special damage type only for light sabers... There is only one thing that resists light sabers and that is cortosis... and that isn't be used at the current time as there are no jedi for it to be practical...


Lastly would be2 new force powers called Jedi Defense and Jedi Resistance...


This power gives the jedi defense mods for a period of time determined by there level from30 minute to 2 hours... and gives the Jedi a bonus to all state defenses and melee, ranged defenses according to there level.


The second poweris Jedi Resistance and would give the Jedi a certain resistance and AR according to there level...

at Jedi it would be 20% resist to all and AR 1

at Jedi Knight would be 60% to all and AR 2

at Jedi Master would be 90% to all and AR 3...


Jedi should be uber at master and it should be hard to obtain... I hope you guys take some of this into consideration... be well and may the force be with you!



Arconis Darkfyre
Drunkenjedi420
Fri Apr 16, 2004 8:43 pm
#163

Acronis - why cant we have more people like you voicing their thoughts? hehe. Your Ideas are the Most excellent.


-Sazo





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vabli
Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:00 pm
#164

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vabli
Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:04 pm
#165

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Why did you call the police? Did the retard escape? - Borat Sagdiyev
vabli
Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:05 pm
#166


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Why did you call the police? Did the retard escape? - Borat Sagdiyev
Arconis_Runicblade
Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:13 pm
#167






Drunkenjedi420 wrote:

Acronis - why cant we have more people like you voicing their thoughts? hehe. Your Ideas are the Most excellent.


-Sazo









I try



I just hope the post gets noticed by the devs... thats what jedi should be like... Fall to the dark side... not choose to be a Dark Side jedi..... it kinda peeves me to see it like the way it is heh




Arconis Darkfyre
Ackehece
Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:34 pm
#168






Thunderheart wrote:





Bogak wrote:





Advancing down the path of Jedi will start with basic force sensitivity which will be open to all players to create a sense of the force.



?? Does this mean. Everyone will have two slots per server as well? And be FS? creating thousands of Jedi running around? Still kind of confused about this.



Successful Jedi Knights will have the opportunity for two slots (in the current design), but it will be difficult to attain.



seems simple enough to understand - with the design they are working with now you can have two character slots.





VQT wrote:

well, so far it's looking good, but we need more information on how this will affect current jedi before we can put our views in.




Some translation to the new system will be part of the process and current Jedi will not lose their second slot.


Second slot will remain jedi - but you main will now have access to the force or your main will be transfered to your second slot and your jedi to the front. Again you lose nothing.





prettysic wrote:

What happens to the holo grinders that haven't unlocked?



They get to play through the new quest system in Publish 10.



Has been said all along. but it also has been said that if you have not unlocked through holo-grind you work would be taken into consideration. but you would still have to do a (easier? Modefied? Different?) a quest segement. So this does not conflict with anything said before...


When all is said and done... this is a fairly clear statement of what is happening. I mean unless you do not understand english (as some of you don't) this should be an easy thing to read and it does answer a lot of questions



1) you get to keep your second slot (and everyone can get one eventually if they work at it)


2) you don't lose your work that you have done currently on jedi that have been unlocked


3) you still have to do the quest if you have not unlocked - but from pervious information given to us we know that they will take work done into account (how much is not know - but hey ^_^ is part of the fun!)








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CLab2021
Fri Apr 16, 2004 9:47 pm
#169

Actually sounds good to me...I still hate the devs for ignoring pikeman though...



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