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Thread: *scared of the CU* Can anyone answer a few questions?

TangledMyth
Mon Apr 25, 2005 4:45 pm
#1

What do you all mean respec?

If there is minimal wounds and no BF, how can new dancers fill entertainer healing?
The skill tapes that I places in stuff are going to be useless?
Can weturn the items in with skill tapes in them to get a refund?


I have beena dancer sincethe game went live, and for once I am really scared
that mymain source of fun, is being rippedout of my fingers.







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SpaceCrazy
Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:37 pm
#2



TangledMyth wrote:
What do you all mean respec?
If there is minimal wounds and no BF, how can new dancers fill entertainer healing?
The skill tapes that I places in stuff are going to be useless?
Can we turn the items in with skill tapes in them to get a refund?

I have been a dancer since the game went live, and for once I am really scared
that my main source of fun, is being ripped out of my fingers.



The respec is basically a chance to change your profession without grinding. However, entertainer classes are not included. You can't give up Dancer to get a combat prof. It's for combat profs to change from, say, Swordsman to Rifleman because the person doesn't like how swordsman plays or something.

There are no mind wounds. There is still BF, although on TC there was rarely any accumulated. The inspiration buffs I believe grant healing xp. Not sure there's going to be enough to make levelling the same pace as it is now.

Don't know about the skill tapes, whether they will work or be converted to something that does. I highly doubt there is any kind of exchange. If you bought a skill tape that's now useless, you're stuck with it unfortunately.

When it comes to the fun though, the fun being an entertainer, for me at least, is playing with other live entertainers. I never had fun healing or buffing. It's my fellow entertainers that make it fun. With this "upgrade", that may be the only fun I have left in the game.



Mesca Phost - Scylla - Rifleman/Ranger/Pilot
Crem Darkstrider - Wanderhome - Smuggler/TK/Brawler/Pilot
Mesca' Phost - Bria - Grand Master Entertainer
(Master Ent/Music/Dance/ID)

Cancelled 7/27/05 - I joined to play Star Wars, not Jedi-BH Wars. You've ignored/gutted/abused just about every other profession in the game, while spending most of your time working on Jedi and BH as they related to Jedi. You've basically killed the game for anyone who doesn't want the glowstick. Congratulations.
SpinningCloud
Mon Apr 25, 2005 6:14 pm
#3

Well, it's not ALL for combat professions only...


Docs can respec. And I think CH can respec.


Seems though that Entertainers were never REALLY thought of as having anything to do with combat even though we indirecly affect combat...kind of like docs.


Once again we're left out and left largely innefectual with only one elite combat profession and drastically lesshealth than that fat ole doc that would have a stroke if he tried just one freaking flourish.




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Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Esharra
Mon Apr 25, 2005 10:24 pm
#4






TangledMyth wrote:

What do you all mean respec?

Mesca covered this very well in his post. Other professions that are unable to respec at this time include the crafting professions.


If there is minimal wounds and no BF, how can new dancers fill entertainer healing?

We have asked that the devs re-evaluate our xp and sp requirements based upon results of recent polls taken here in the forum.


The skill tapes that I places in stuff are going to be useless?

Mind wound healing enhancements will affect the speed at which the current inspiration buff may be applied. Of course, battle fatigue healing items will still affect the speed with which battle fatigue is healed. We have not been told what our mind enhancement tapes and items will affect but the devs are very aware of this concern and that we have invested a lot of hard earned credits in these items.


Can weturn the items in with skill tapes in them to get a refund?

At this time, that has not been determined. My bet is that the items will be converted to something that will enhance our future skills.



I have beena dancer sincethe game went live, and for once I am really scared
that mymain source of fun, is being rippedout of my fingers.

When I started dancing at launch I certainly didn't anticipate all the changes we have been through. We are losing mind wound healing and mind enhancement (buffs) but they aren't the reason I started dancing. I came here to dance. I can still dance. And I plan on dancing until they boot me off the server for the last time.


I think the best way to look at the CU is that it is the first step in the process of rebuilding the game. This first step does not include rebuilding our profession. But the process doesn't end with the release of the CU. Sure..we arelosing some things that aren't being replaced right now..but that opens up a lot of space for us to get new things that I think will work better for "our fun".


I regret that I don't have all the answers everyone would like at this time. I can't tell you what is being considered behind the scenes. What I can tell you is that Scip and I have submitted a lot of information and feedbackbased on your postsand thatour suggestions arebeing received very well. I hope I can tell you all more soon. But all I can really say right now is that Our Time Will Come.



/hug Rapa









Esharra ěsh-äŕ-rä, noun
1. Entertainer
2. Bounty Hunter
3. Smuggler

"One man's oddity is another man's routine." -Bertos Goodner (a dancer)


LyteFoot
Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:34 am
#5

I'm already master musician, entertainer. I can still play music with Imaji and hang out with my friends. I can use my TKM with my guild for some combat. So as long as my friends are here and my partner is here I'll be here. Nothing else really matters except having fun and enjoying the relationships you have built. If those stop then find a new place to rebuild, if those are still here then relax and enjoy them.



Elwyn LyteFoot - Corbantis server
DanceRulez
Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:26 pm
#6



TangledMyth wrote:
What do you all mean respec?
If there is minimal wounds and no BF, how can new dancers fill entertainer healing?
The skill tapes that I places in stuff are going to be useless?
Can we turn the items in with skill tapes in them to get a refund?

I have been a dancer since the game went live, and for once I am really scared
that my main source of fun, is being ripped out of my fingers.





Just a few comments, I think all professions that are eligible for respec are any combat professions (with Jedi too I think), and scout and medic based professions - that was what I found when I tested it. Artisan and Entertainer based professions were not eligible (and I think Politician and Pilot are irrelevant to the respec as they don't take skill points). Basically you can trade skill boxes around in the eligible professions for other skill boxes to change your template in the event that you don't like your post CU role without having to earn the actual XP for it. (Although you can change the eligible boxes around for any reason you like.) It uses a screen that's based on the current Skills screen, and you can click to drop boxes and add conversion points (different boxes have different worths depending on their level, whether they are Elite skills or Novice skills, and Jedi or non-Jedi based - there might have been another category or two, that I don't remember right now) and click to add other boxes and spend those conversion points. You can turn on the help interface and it will explain all the options and how they work. It's not too difficult to do. I think it's a one time change so you can either do nothing, or go through and change your character once (though for some combat professions, it might force you to make some change as it will try to automatically convert your existing professions to match the new tree hierarchy - it will try to assign skill points to fill in missing trees which might result in your total skill point value going negative, in which case it would force you to drop skills until your skill points go positive again). I hope that makes sense.

There does seem to be a problem for new entertainers trying to level as far as earning Ent Healing XP. There is still BF, so that will still give Ent Healing XP, and so will Inspiration Buffs, but at this time it does not seem like this will be enough for new entertainers to gain XP at a reasonable rate, though it is not certain. We have raised this as an issue, and I think the devs are considering it, but we don't know what they will do about it. They could increase the rate of EH XP gain from the existing sources, decrease the XP requirements, or introduce a new source of EH XP. I don't think they've made any statements about which they would choose or when they would implement it (most likely they might increase the XP rate and/or decrease the requirements as that would be easy to implement probably).

As far as Dance Skill enhancements in skill tapes and clothing, the only dance skill that has been made obsolete is Dance (and Music) Mind Enhancement. All others works the same as before except Dance (or Music) Wound Healing which now enhances the skill of applying Inspiration buffs - it allows you to apply them faster (and I wouldn't be surprised if we see the name of this skill changing). I doubt there will be any sort of 'refund' for them - I've never heard of that happening before in this game. More likely expect obsolete skills to be converted at some point, though I think they may have said that that probably wouldn't happen until after the CU. As far as the Mind Enhancement skill, my guess is that it will be converted to some new skill that the devs have been hinting at to be added sometime after the CU is done. If that happens, there's no way to be sure whether this new skill would be more or less valuable than the old Mind Enhancements tapes - perhaps less because the old skill tapes were often greatly inflated since they were often bought up by bot owners who had plenty of credits to throw around.

I just wanted to add on to some of the things that others had said. I hope this was helpful!



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