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Thread: Why I Am So Disappointed By This Patch

Anjh
Wed Apr 28, 2004 7:37 am
#1


this is anotherpatch that makes me feel like the arts program is being run by the football coach


a. effect bots


the effects are pretty and they should have been a really neat add-on to performing, but i'm really disappointed for three reasons:


1. you can't fit all 6 effects in a small, uncumbersome droid, they have to go in an R3... that's almost as big as i am and since most of our shows take place on cantina stages that were already designed by the football coach with no thought to actually fitting movements onto them, having effects in a huge honking droid instead of something small and discreet looking is awful... if they have to be in an R3, why couldn't we set it over in the corner and target the stage... you know... like real light and show effects instead of putting a huge droid front and centre in the act on an already oddly-shaped and too-small stage space or else having the odd visual effect of setting the attention-getting lights and flashes somewhere the performers are not


2. the format for effects is a damned looping macro... how well does that fit in artistically?... no flight of avians for punch onX line of lyrics, no cloud of fog for effect as you move into the chorus, no artistic control over it at all beyond preprogramming which effects you want and how large or small the loop is because you can't tell it to fire *now* you can only tell it to start running the loop from wherever it is in the loop


3. whether you go for a huge R3 so you can access all the effects or pick a couple of favorites and decide in advance how to pair them for all your songs so you can fit a few mice in your datapad and ignore the rest of the effects, you just added a performer who never shuts up to the troupe... the whole time they're out they're chirping and whirring and you can't turn it off


b. the delay after stopping


i don't even know what it was meant to fix, but now there's a delay for 10 or 15 seconds or however long when you /stopdance or /stopmusic... this means musicians can't change instruments during a song and it also means that when they're bugged they can't stop and restart to fix it unless they stand there gaping like fish for a nice long pause... hopefully there isn't amaster dancersprawled across the stage taking 10 seconds to recover from their 4th fall in a one-hour show at the same time or it might look kind of stupid (/sarcasm off)


c. the 'fix' on fast performer buffs


i hate the 30-second buff because it looks butt ugly and it's contrary to the whole idea of performing and being entertaining, like afk performing, but it wasa pretty necessary evil since most players don't even bother trying to find a live master performer for buffs any more and they certainly don't want to spend 10-15 minutes of their play time getting a buff if they can work around without it by just using more chef foods... why not a game system where a master dancer (for example) can /setperf and do a full buff in 30 seconds to a minute using regular, unspammed, visually appealing dance moves... even if the performer then has to sit and recover for 5 minutes before they can buff again (i don't see the need, don't get me wrong, but i have no clue what the devs have against fast, easy performer buffs) this would be a better time drain than one that doesn't let the player back out the door since that just has the effect of making players not use performer buffs


argh... sorry, i guess it's just a rant day for me, but why can't additionsand changes be made with more sense of what would really work and be helpful? and especially why does it always feel like artistry is such a low, low priority?



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Dyseman
Wed Apr 28, 2004 11:44 am
#2

I too rely on changing instruments in the middle of a song. It's part of my concert. You don't go to a REAL concert and (Just saying out of the blue) Charlie Daniels go from Guitar to Fiddle and have to look at his watch for 15 seconds before he continues. If there was an Exploit that made this 15 seconds come into play, Please fix the exploit but not hamper our performances.


Thanks

DYSE



----Just me----
Dyseman
Wed Apr 28, 2004 1:28 pm
#3

Also, While Dancing I can't band Flourish my droid. Only while playing an instrument. Am I wrong? or can this be changed



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Hiply
Wed Apr 28, 2004 3:22 pm
#4


Ludicrous, that's a great word to start this with. My partner Anjh elucidated far more eloquently than I will here...but...


10-15 sec from stopping to start? There goes fixing a bug when you are not playing even though you are animating in a performance...there go instrument changes in a performance...what the bloody %$#!! are we thinking here?


I have not tried the 30 second buff yet...so I'll withold comment..


I don't even want to start on the ancient issue of musicians wasting 34 pts having to learn to dance and do makeup in order to play an instrument...which is like telling a pistoleer he needs to learn rifle and carbine to get access to a pistol...(pleeeeease don't get me started on that one!)...that's been a ridiculous issue since day one and I am sure it's never going away...so please, don't make my performing life harder than it is.


Anjh handled the bot issues, I won't go there...


(grumble)


Message Edited by Hiply on 04-28-2004 05:25 PM



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