Dancer Archive
Thread: AFK Dancing is ruining my AT KEYBOARD game experience
If everyone is AFK with auto-join, how does a group even get started? LOL 
Kind of like if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear, etc.
You've obviously not met Mr. Auto-join's friends Auto-invite and Auto-train. Yup..I've even been train spammed by a macro!
Groovymarlin wrote:
If everyone is AFK with auto-join, how does a group even get started? LOL
Kind of like if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is there to hear, etc.
I know how you feel Deady. This is a point I've trying to drive home the past couple of weeks on both the dancer forums and the musician forums. I'm not a musician, but some of our issues are similar and I got sucked in there recently.
But, this is my point, and I'd love comments, because it almost seems like I'm being virtually ignored. LOL.
Ok, so many afk'ers have this gripe about atk'ers. And, the gripe is, they think that we are telling them how to play. I don't think we are doing so. In fact, the vast majority of atk'ers don't mind people who afk so much as they mind the consequences of certain tactics that people use when they afk. This whole time I have maintained that if somebody is afk'ing themselves, QUIETLY, without spam, even if they have auto-join on, most of us don't really have a problem with that. We're not trying to mandate that you must be at your keyboard at all times.
Rather, the problem comes into play in that what people do, or macro rather, while they are afk'ing is RUINING our gameplay experience and FORCING us to play the way the afk'ers want to play! If we want to not have to put up with the spam, we are forced to ignore. If we want to join in a group, we are forced to wait until an afk'er leaves. The afk'er steals our experience. The afk'er steals the money we could be making on buffs by offering them for free. They steal our livelihood. The afk'er, until this new patch spammed start/stop speedbuff in order to get 4x the normal amount of experience. This forced us to not be able to enjoy listening to ingame music without system messages scrolling rapidly. This forced us to forego listening to ingame music in certain venues if we had any desire to have a conversation in spatial or we needed to see the system messages for some reason. When the big group played 3 songs at once because they were all afk, we were told "Turn off your music" Or, "turn on your real life radio." When the start/stop spam started to catch on in the busiest cantinas we were told "remove your system messages." Well, darn it, I WANT to listen to the ingame music. I WANT to keep my system messages on. But, we were being told, NO...practically FORCED to modify our styles of gameplay because of tactics used by many (tho not all) of the afk'ers. This greatly negatively impacts my gameplay experience. And, for some reason WE are being told that WE are telling THEM how to play. Give me a break! They're not even really playing while they are afk, but when one returns briefly to the keyboard, or after the fact, they're telling US how to play. They're FORCING us to play a certain way because of some of the tactics they are using. They're making us make choices that we don't like or we don't feel comfortable making. I mean, all I want to do is listen to the musicians play, and keep my system messages on. Is that really so wrong? Am I really forcing my heavy handedness down upon the afk player by making the simple request to be able to enjoy the total immersion that the devs have provided for us? I don't think so. But, apparently I am the one who is trying to tell someone else how to play. Seems to me, however, that it's the other way around.
Drygo I know how you feel! I do not mind afk players at all, I mind afk-spammers interrupting my gaming experience. It not only removes the ability to read spatial chat, emotes and system messages but also lags up the game, I mean we all hate coronet (aka Coro-lag) startport, why? SPAM!!!
We don't want that environment forced uponus in a place the game forces us to go to.We don't choose togo to cantina's necessarily, but bf can only be healed in certainvenues...
Another point I think you forgot though Drygo regarding a gripe many ATK-ers have is that the huge AFK-entertainer phenomenon has devalued the profession, causing low opinions/attitudes of entertainers and their proffession as being less important/meaningful than others. This disturbs me greatly.