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Thread: Are there any plans in the near future to enable dancers to rid BF in camps?

Newara
Tue Aug 19, 2003 11:08 am
#1

Medics can heal in camps and Dancers can rid Mind wounds - but not Battle Fatigue......


Just curious to know if you plan to change this at all - as it would big great to have dancers along on hunting parties if they could rid the BF as we go




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Celadori
Tue Aug 19, 2003 11:15 am
#2

bad idea, then everyone will just dash out and get novice entertainer and heal themselves effectively doing all the full time entertainers out of a job.



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Kalia
Tue Aug 19, 2003 11:40 am
#3

Exactly Celedori... nobody would ever bother coming back to town to heal up their BF.


One small changed that would begood to see though, is the ability to heal only fellow PA members. I regularly go on hunting excurions with the members of my PA, and being able to heal them would be a nice help overall.




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killadwarf
Tue Aug 19, 2003 11:45 am
#4

unless they allow only the elite entertaining professions to heal battle fatigue



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Sylune_heart
Tue Aug 19, 2003 3:17 pm
#5

I think best case scenario on this would be to allow Master dancer and Master musician to heal BF in a level IV frontiering camp.


The reason for this is to make sure its not something that can be exploited.


The ability to have a level IV frontier camp and Master dancer or Musician in the field is a rare occurance and it would not be feasible for a combatant who is effective have enough points to be both.


This way those of us who have reached Master lvl of our chosen profession could get some fresh air. And traveling with large groups out into the wild us masters would be like the USO, entertaining and keeping up the morale of the troops in the field.



Syl

apocalance
Wed Aug 20, 2003 12:28 am
#6

You know, even if they said a Master Dancer or Master Musicianin a Master Rangers' camp was the only way BF could be healed outside of town, AT LEAST we would know there's HOPE! I find it hard to believe that BF is curable by a novice entertainer in a cantina, but NOT in a well built camp by a MASTER dancer or MASTER musician.


Just my 2¢.




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VernaAldora
Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:20 am
#7

You know what would even be better than healing BF? Giving mind buffs. I'm not talking about watch me for 10 minutes and recieve a 100 pt increase. I want a /focus that is able to concentrate on an individual and let them recieve a major increase to their mind. Of course, this shouldn't be for the average joe and only able to be given by a Master Dancer or Musician. This would help out on the harder planets, where a medic can buff your health and action, but your mind is still stuck at the bottom. A major increase would create more of a demand for Combat Entertainers and hopefully bring some of us who are weary of the cantina scene, out into the field.



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Bener
Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:23 am
#8

The restriction of BF healing to cantinas, theatres, and hotels is a concious design decision, and the restriction is even referred to in the printed manual.

The cantina scene is an important part of the Star Wars culture, and if they change this mechanism, they might as well remove cantinas from the map because they will be desolate.

I would be very surprised if the developers changed this, and I don't want them to. If you want to be a combat entertainer, pick up pistoleer. That's why you have 250 skill points. It only takes a few minutes to heal 500 BF, so stop by the cantina the next time you're in town, and the entertainers there will take care of it.

Bener
VernaAldora
Wed Aug 20, 2003 8:56 am
#9

I AGREE with only allowing BF healing in Cantinas! I just wish there was a better way to buff mind points. If we could add points to the mind pool that would be a better improvement than BF healing in camps.


Thank you, I already picked up Pistoleer and doing my best at being a combat dancer.




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Bener
Wed Aug 20, 2003 10:57 am
#10

Thank you for clarifying, Verna. I apologize if I seemed testy, I just think that BF healing elsewhere will be seriously detrimental to the entertainer professions. I also congratulate you on solving your own problems and taking a combat profession. I hope you find your career path to be as fulfilling as I have found my dedicated entertainer path to be.

That being said, one good way to buff mind is with food and spice. Muon Gold gives you +500 to all your mind stats for 10 minutes. Of course, the downer is kind of bad. There are also types of food that will grant you up to 75 willpower. Needless to say, chefs and smugglers can be great friends when you are doing mind-related work.

You can supposedly buff peoples minds in camp by dancing or playing music, and I've heard of values from 300-500 points lasting for 10 minutes, although I have never tested it. If this is so (I'm not certain that it is), I'm on board with it. Targeted buffs for dancing or playing, however, make no sense to me. If they are watching you, they are watching you whether you have them targeted or not.

I have a real problem with the bard type combat buffing that would have Nirvana or Brittany Spears behind the front line in a war zone buffing peoples minds. This might make sense in a CRPG D&D clone, but I believe that the place for an entertainer in Star Wars is in a camp or cantina, not targetting buffs for front line fighters. I'm not sure whether this is what you are suggesting or not.

Regards,
Bener
Arrocken
Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:31 am
#11

Everyone is entitled to thier own opinion, however my opinion is that we should have it in camps. I don't see it affecting much. I would however like to see it but only with somebody who has at least gotten BF Ent Healing, at least. Otherwise it's pointless. Why waste the skillpoints in even having a BF Ent Heal if any joe can do it in a cantina group. I see it as holding the Entertainers back, not helping them by not having it. I just wish that they would at least bring this up to the Devs attention so they can acurately weigh the pros and cons, rather than just letting the members duke it out themselves on the boards.



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VernaAldora
Wed Aug 20, 2003 11:54 am
#12

I've been dancing for people incamps and have only rid them of mind damage. I've never seen an increase or buff result from my dancing. I'm not a Master Dancer yet, but I'm working on it. Our Academy is going to test the theory of mind buffs in public cantinas, player housing, and camps. We'll let you know our results.


Although food is a good idea, having a downer time is not. When Doctors buff you in the field and it wears off, there is no negative reaction to it. I would like to see it work this way with dance as well.


The targeting thing. That was meant to be in camps, but I can see how that wouldn't be effective. I would actually like that to benefit anyone watching you. That actually means you can do a lot of buffing with the least amount of action being consumed. Anyways, if you're a dancer it's almost impossible not to be involved with the fighting if you are a "combat dancer." Well, this has been my experience as of yet. Plus, the buffing wouldn't work because people would actually have to watch you. They can't do that while fighting. Just like you can't dance if you're fighting already. Trust me, I tried.


It's a small niche but it's where I fit. I love being out in the field and I love dancing. It's not for everyone and it certainly won't force people out of the cantinas. This will open up a new profession for those of us who are tired of dancing indoors. I LOVE dancing on Dathomir after we just got smashed up by a couple of rancors. It's absolutely amazing to travel. And this is so off topic.




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AdaraX
Thu Aug 21, 2003 3:26 am
#13

First, agreed on BF.. I also think it should be confined to Cantinas. For multiple reasons, not the least of which being that when there are people new to the profession, they NEED people to come into the cantina so they can gain experience at healing wounds and fatigue.


As to the other things Voh'la mentioned, we completed a bunch of testing, and I posted some results in the thread on mind buffing. It is confined to masters, and works quite well, especially for those who enjoy being combat performers - it provides a true purpose, outside of the mind wounds alone, as well as providing a wonderful reason to obtain mastery.




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