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Thread: Exotic 1/2/3/4
But basically, you can only use Flo 1-3 on each dance if you want to see different flourishes. (And even some of those are shared with the other exotics.) The last 5 flo's are that annoying belly-dance move from rhythmic2, where you stick your arms out to the sides and wiggle in a circle.
--Qilue-UCW-- wrote:
What is the diffrence between these dances? What about their flourishes..
I read two topics from2/25/04 and 9/2/03 that say they each only have 2 or 3 unique flourishes, is that still true?
Message Edited by Drygo on 04-16-2005 05:05 AM
Yep, exactly. Just amended a teeny bit cause I spent an awful lot of time with ex 1 and 2. Like that one time that Panth00 and I were doing Ex1 to RP drunken dancers. That's kinda fun, and it was the one time I wished we could actually purposely fall.
Drygo wrote:
--Qilue-UCW-- wrote:
What is the diffrence between these dances? What about their flourishes..
I read two topics from2/25/04 and 9/2/03 that say they each only have 2 or 3 unique flourishes, is that still true?
I'm leaving exotic 1 out of this because it's a scary dance, and all of it's flourishes are duplicated in the other 3 exotics (it has the exact same flos as ex 2)
Exotic 2 has one unique flourish, which is /flo 1. Flo 2 is actually the base dance on Exotic 3.Flo 3 is the same as flo 2. Flo's 4-8 ( I think) are replicated in the other exotics. So, so far we have 2 flourishes (/flo 1, and /flo 8, for example)
Exotic 3 has 2 unique flourishes which are /flo 1 and /flo 3. /flo 2 is actually the same as the base dance. flo's 4-8 are the same as exotic 2 flo's 3-8 (That brings our total of different flourishes so far to 4...I am not counting /flo 2 as a flourish on exotic 2 and 3 because it is the same animation as the base dance forexotic 3.)
Exotic 4 has 2 more flourishes, which are /flo 1 and /flo 2. /flo 3 is a repeat of /flo 2. And, /flo's 4-8 are a repeat of the last /flo's on exotics 3 and 4.
So, not counting the flo that is the same as the base dance for exotic 3, then in grand total, out of all 4 exotic dances, there are only 6 flourishes.
Hope this helps.
Edited: As Schardour/Anakin points out, those last 4 or 5 flo's that each exotic has is that same shimmy flo from rhythmic. So, in all fairness we can't really count this as another flo in the exotics. So, I am amending this post to say that out of 4 exotic dances, we really have only 5 unique flo's.
Message Edited by Drygo on 04-16-2005 05:05 AM
Drygo wrote:
--Qilue-UCW-- wrote:
What is the diffrence between these dances? What about their flourishes..
I read two topics from2/25/04 and 9/2/03 that say they each only have 2 or 3 unique flourishes, is that still true?
I'm leaving exotic 1 out of this because it's a scary dance, and all of it's flourishes are duplicated in the other 3 exotics
Exotic 2 has one unique flourish, which is /flo 1. Flo 2 is actually the base dance on Exotic 3. Flo's 3-8 ( I think) are replicated in the other exotics. So, so far we have 2 flourishes (/flo 1, and /flo 8, for example)
Exotic 3 has 2 unique flourishes which are /flo 1 and /flo 3. /flo 2 is actually the same as the base dance. flo's 4-8 are the same as exotic 2 flo's 3-8 (That brings our total of different flourishes so far to 4...I am not counting /flo 2 as a flourish on exotic 2 and 3 because it is the same animation as the base dance forexotic 3.)
Exotic 4 has 2 more flourishes, which are /flo 1 and /flo 2. /flo 3 is a repeat of /flo 2. And, /flo's 4-8 are a repeat of the last /flo's on exotics 3 and 4.
So, not counting the flo that is the same as the base dance for exotic 3, then in grand total, out of all 4 exotic dances, there are only 6 flourishes.
Hope this helps.
Edited: As Schardour/Anakin points out, those last 4 or 5 flo's that each exotic has is that same shimmy flo from rhythmic. So, in all fairness we can't really count this as another flo in the exotics. So, I am amending this post to say that out of 4 exotic dances, we really have only 5 unique flo's.
Message Edited by Drygo on 04-16-2005 05:05 AM
Petronela wrote:
Which basically supports the theory (not sure if it was ever proven/admitted or not) that originally there was only one Exotic Dance, with E3 and E4 base being actually a flourish (that would add to actual full dance of 8 flourishes) which was in a hurry dissected in to 4 separate dances when they most likely realized there is not enough dances for the whole Dance Knowledge tree.
The E1 base must have been the last touch up of motion capturing a drunk janitor while attempting to mop the floors and just subtracting the mop and bucket.
Sad
Deli'ah
The exotic dance is a confusing one, I cant work out what was intended from the animations they supplied. They are named simply as a Belly dance, which implies it was just a single dance but the name are confusing as they do not follow the standard 'novice loop, base loop, flourish 1-8' as all the other dances are named as. So just by looking at the file names it isn't clear.
There are I think (from memory),3 unused animations for theexotics, and actually looking at them you can see why. One is a strange move where the character just sort of bounces around with his or her elbows seemingly glued to their waist! Another was a counterpart to the existing flourish 4-8s (but with slightly morebottom shaking) and the third was a transition flourish.If anything it seems like the exotic dances were intended for some other dance system than what we ended up with.
The exotic animation start/end arm postitions cannot be reconciled with the idea it was a single dance as it would be too jumpy between the high and low position. However, the transition flourish that existswould provide the ability to 'move' the arms gracefully from low to mid to high positions. I think if anything, the exotic dance was designed for a system other than the one we have, the break dance too perhaps. Have you seen the breakdance video?I made an exotics video too in a similar manner, so that's why I am talking about animations that perhaps you have not seen.But neither really seems to fit well with the current dance system and just seems to have been levered in to it rather than designed, choreographed and mo capped for it as the other dances seem to have been.
So I don't think the exotics where a dance that was split into 4 at the last minute, but neither do I think what we got was what they intended us to have when they mo capped it. I just think dancing was at one point going to work differently.
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