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Thread: changing dance mid flourish something very odd
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Ikewe
Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:32 pm
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Last week I finally managed to make my transition from popular to poplock and back again so very smooth that I astounded myself and even had another dancer ask how I'd gotten a new flourish 
Now this week, I was trying to replicate the timing and found something very very odd happening. In popular and in poplock instead of finishing the current flourish before changing the dance, I would instantly switch to the base dance. Now perhaps I was simply having an issue with lag and while I thought there was more time for the flourish, the system thought it was done. But I tried it again and again and each time I got an ugly, whipping into the new dance effect.
Has anyone else encountered this? It didn't happen with the other dances I tried, just popular and poplock. Any suggestions on fixing this? Maybe I'm just typing too slowly??
Schardour
Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:43 pm
#2
Ikewe wrote:
instead of finishing the current flourish before changing the dance, I would instantly switch to the base dance.
So it wouldn't launch into the same flourish in the new dance?
(Ex: exotic 3, flourish 2 is interrupted by a /changedance exotic4. Instead of going into flourish 2 of exotic 4, it goes directly to the base dance?)
Panthu
Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:50 pm
#3
This pops up every now and then and is one of the pitfalls of counting on a "player fix." Because mixing is really just a work around players came up with to try to get some customization into their dance routines, we can't count on other changes to the game code leaving it alone.
Not only that, but the nasty secret of mixing is that you might be the only one seeing your transitions the way they look on your screen. We need real dance tools.
Ikewe
Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:57 pm
#4
Schardour wrote:
So it wouldn't launch into the same flourish in the new dance?
(Ex: exotic 3, flourish 2 is interrupted by a /changedance exotic4. Instead of going into flourish 2 of exotic 4, it goes directly to the base dance?)
Correct. It did not finish the flourish. It would "whip" me into the base dance. For example:
Popular2, flourish 2 starts. I type /changedance poplock and hit enter. I instantly start doing the base dance to poplock with no flourish.
Ikewe
Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:58 pm
#5
Panthu wrote:
This pops up every now and then and is one of the pitfalls of counting on a "player fix." Because mixing is really just a work around players came up with to try to get some customization into their dance routines, we can't count on other changes to the game code leaving it alone.
Not only that, but the nasty secret of mixing is that you might be the only one seeing your transitions the way they look on your screen. We need real dance tools.
/sigh pffft and I was so excited when I'd finally managed to do it smoothly. dang it this gets more and more depressing every day.
Ikewe, Shadowfire
Goldshadow
Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:35 pm
#6
Panthu wrote:
No depression!! This is just one of those things where no game has ever done this before so there is no real precedent. Luckily, we have a kick butt Dancer Corr who can help get this fixed. We just need to help Deila by giving her good feedback to take to the Devs.
/bow DancerCorr
/bow DancerBlueGlowies
Skye_Blue
Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:01 pm
#7
I've never been able to make a smooth transition between dances, that's why I use the light/smoke effects. It's even more discouraging when I think some moves look perfectly fine, they appear broken to others. I can't wait for the new changes.
Panthu
Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:34 am
#8
No depression!! This is just one of those things where no game has ever done this before so there is no real precedent. Luckily, we have a kick butt Dancer Corr who can help get this fixed. We just need to help Deila by giving her good feedback to take to the Devs. 
Xyrdre
Thu Mar 17, 2005 6:11 pm
#9
Panthu wrote:
We just need to help Deila by giving her good feedback to take to the Devs.
Yes! Much much much feedback is always needed.
The waters get really muddy surrounding our dances when we start to take into account that others may not see anything remotely like what we see ourselves do (and yes, I almost cried when I first found this out too back when .) And really, so much of it seems to come down to testing with others - and a lot - to be able to tell not only what we see going on with anything dance-related, but also the other half of the equation in what everyone else seems to be seeing. And if what viewers see is consistent with each other... itcan keep getting weirder and weirder.
.) And really, so much of it seems to come down to testing with others - and a lot - to be able to tell not only what we see going on with anything dance-related, but also the other half of the equation in what everyone else seems to be seeing. And if what viewers see is consistent with each other... itcan keep getting weirder and weirder.
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