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AG-941

Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:19 am

Everyone keeps yackin' about numbers and such, but it's gonna be worthless if no one knows (buffer and buffee) how to apply them. Can we get a step-by-step guide, please?

TIA

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Goldy_Lhim

Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:23 am

#2

They explained it in the eleventy billion long post.

You target who you want to inspire.

Type /inspire.

Awindow pops up with your inspiration options. You select which inspiration to apply.

Dance dance dance

I've never tried it but that's what I read. So correct as neccessary

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AG-941

Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:26 am

#3

Goldy_Lhim wrote:

They explained it in the eleventy billion long post.

You target who you want to inspire.

Type /inspire.

Awindow pops up with your inspiration options. You select which inspiration to apply.

Dance dance dance

I've never tried it but that's what I read. So correct as neccessary

Does the person /watch first? or do you /inspire then the person /watches?

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Panthu

Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:37 am

#4

The person needs to watch first. The nice thing is, it tells you if that person is not watching you (awesome!).

Goldy's steps were right. Once you pick the buff you want from the menu, it will say the name of the buff over the person's head for all to see. Then every 10 seconds while the buff increases in duration by 10 minutes, it displays "+10 Minutes" just like the buff name was displayed. Again, everybody can see it.

When you stop seeing the "+10 Minutes" ticks going over the watcher's head, you've reached max duration.

That's it!

- Other stuff -

- The person can walk away out of range and they just get whatever duration they had ticked up to, full strength on the bonus though

- You can change buffs at any time during the process by doing another /inspire, the duration timer just starts over

- Any old inspiration the watcher had gets over written as soon as they watch you

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Red-Dwarf

Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:07 am

#5

Panthu wrote:

- You can change buffs at any time during the process by doing another /inspire, the duration timer just starts over

Are you sure on that Panthu? I had a general buff building up and hit my target with /inspire and as soon as the first +10 appeared I stopped watching (was testing BEbuffs, which are totally broke unfortunately) but the buff had 1hr to run. It might reset if you switch from say BE to chef, but the general one seems to count if you set it to an active one.

- Any old inspiration the watcher had gets over written as soon as they watch you

Actually this is the key step missed so far - you have to make sure that the patron is only listening or watching to you, and not any other entertainer (otherwise when they /stopw you they have 10seconds to stop any other buff from wiping out the one you just gave them).

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Panthu

Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:34 am

#6

I know that's how it was when Eshie and I tested, because she was testing the build up. She noticed that it reset each time.

If you sayit's changed since a mini-patch or there is an inconsistency, I believe you. I'll come help test it if you aren't sure and need an extra.

As for the auto overwrite - it seems to be creating a lot of issues for us: can't casually listen to Musicians and keep your buff, can't self buff, and must notbe watching/listening to anyone else.

I think maybe it's going to have to be more active still, like Doc buffs, to avoid these weird things. I think it's the only way to keep it from having effects on the actual social aspects of performing and watching/listening to a performer.

This is a lot of goofiness to try to work around just to keep up the illusion of passive buffing... and I think wouldn't be an issue at all if everyone Devside could come to term with the fact that AFK entertaining does not need a use.

Now, I'm all for sticking atrue passivebuff on the Cantinas themselves. People should be encouraged to go to the Social hubs and it doesn't need to require Ents to be involved with that part at all.

So:

Get an active buff from an Ent player anywhere

Get a passive buff by paying a door fee at a Cantina

Let Ents inside Cantina make money by participating in system active grouped challenges (mini-games, Fame challenges, Spy challenges, etc.)

Everyone benefits, no one is put out, everybody gets what they need and Ents no longer have to be "slaves" to the Cantinas to feel useful. They'll just go to Cantinas to have fun and make money - like it always was meant to be.

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Pappi

Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:45 am

#7

I'm sure someone with spare time will come out with a guide once this stuff finalizes and hits live

stupid_people_happen . .

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Trellgar

Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:21 pm

#8

so... we are back to one at a time buffing I take it.

I think charging at the door of the cantina for a passive buff is a bad idea, we want people in the cantina remember?

Ka'th

Trellgar

Red-Dwarf

Mon Aug 29, 2005 1:24 pm

#9

Trellgar wrote:
so... we are back to one at a time buffing I take it.

NO

You can buff as many people as you want at the same time.

(Oh, and I'm drafting a guide up now, while I wait on a patch on TC)

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Panthu

Mon Aug 29, 2005 2:57 pm

#10

Trellgar wrote:

I think charging at the door of the cantina for a passive buff is a bad idea, we want people in the cantina remember?

When they talked about doing it before, they said people would only pay if they wanted the passive buff. Anyone could enter anyway, they just wouldn't get the passive buff if they didn't pay the fee.

I think it was a good idea and it stops people from saying they can't get buffs and Ents are too hard to find. It beats the idea of putting in an NPC Dancer big time! It still brings people to the cantina so we still have a chance to engage them in conversation. The passive buff would take longer to apply than getting it from a player.

This was also part of the plan for the Cantina salary. The only problem with that plan was that it had the Ents speeding up the buff (good), getting paid automatically (good), but all we were doing still was buffing and hanging out waiting for people to show up (not so good).

If that old plan was just tweaked a bit, Ents could show up for a performance game as well as talking to people who came in and giving them a faster buff. We could be doing our fame thing, spy thing, or whatever so even when no patrons were there to buff, we'd have something fun to do. When they did show up, we'd socialize like normal. Everybody's a winner. \o/

I also think this would make it safe to let Ents buff anywhere, just like you can get IDed anywhere. That way people are rewarded for interacting with Ents anywhere, not just in doors. Throw in some extra functionality on the cantinas (ATMs, Bazaar Terms, Message Boards, etc.) and then fun stuff for Ents and non-Ents like mini-game challenges - it could finally be a real social hub.