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Thread: New Flourishes... does anyone like these?

EnzymE
Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:26 pm
#1

I think the new flourishes are really terrible. They don't flow with the old ones at all. They disobey the laws of physics, I see people hanging in the air and sliding across the floor for noreason. Either they rushed this project or whoever animated the new flourished should not be doing this for a living! They look so bad I just wish they weren't in the patch at all.
Ndainye
Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:49 pm
#2

Based on the reports from test center I was expecting to be underwhelmed by them and I am. For the most part they don't look that good and they don't fit together in any real fashion. When dancing my toon takes on the look of a puppet who's strings are being pulled.



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EnzymE
Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:07 pm
#3

That's a very good description. When looking at motion capture versus animating only on the workstation this becomes even clearer. When you're trying to script an animation with no real guides it's like a best guess much like if you were guessing how to operate a puppet by pulling the strings. I'm just assuming after the main game was done they sent the motion capture team on their way and we might not ever see newanimation of that quality in this game.

Esharra
Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:17 pm
#4

Just tried them & I think I'm going to be ill.



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Xxtayce
Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:55 pm
#5

Ugly, ugly, ugly......


blech.








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Sultrina
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:00 pm
#6

I think the need to slow down the playback on the new flourishes. I think there are some serious violations of the laws of physics here too, but lets at least get them playing at the right tempo first.
Aequorea
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:33 pm
#7

I love them, All I need is a red wig, some big shoes and a nose that honks and you have a clown.
Sylune_heart
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:38 pm
#8

I been warning you all about this on this forum about this since the patch went to the test center, i guess you all see now why i was so upset.


Welcome to the wonderful world of Second rate.


SOE in true fashion



Syl

Daelite
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:43 pm
#9

I think they are horrid, but I do think with some creative ideas Poplock has a bit of promise...and I REALLY mean that. I loved poplock, but I have also always loved to watch mime....so....I am all over it. LOL



For the others, I guess we got what we asked for though....they at least listened....more than I can say about previous SOE ventures.



Happy Dancing!




KI'ki
Sinda
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:51 pm
#10

I'd probably be more upset about the new flourishes if they were for dances I actually used. It's ironic to me that they can't even screw up something useless and do it right.


Try doing the flourishes wearing some clothing - the texture overlaps and breakthroughs are horrible, right there on top of the impossible physical positions.


What utter crap.






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Master Dancer/Teras Kasi Novice
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Sylune_heart
Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:57 pm
#11

To add insult to injury, i realize this is a bit off topic.


But!


In this patch they have really made me angry for more then just the dance flo's. The mission payouts are a joke for entertainer missions as well as seek and destroy.


The knockdown nerf has completely neutered my TKA skills, (How the hell am i supposed to survive since doing knockdown ONCE eats half my HAM)


I had to maxmize my stats through migration to be able to fight unarmed, and to continue to Master dancer.


Having half my health eaten up by a single special has ruined my playing ability. And to top it all off because they DID nerf mission payouts, the entertainers are gonna get hit the hardest economically.


You thought you were earning little tips before? Just wait the economy now is gonna make it so you get JACK.


So in order to survive, you have to go do destroy missions that pay less so you have to do more of them, and when peopel go for healing at a cantina it will be empty because of economics.



Great job SOE


you Screwed my character royal.



Syl

Kyorlana
Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:17 pm
#12

Hate the new flourishes... they need to get the motion capture people back on the case sooner rather than later. One of them (footloose 7 ) reminds me of the Monkey walk (you know, 'Hey hey we're the monkeys'), poplock 7 looks like someone can't stand Michael Jackson's dance style... and as for the others... well... *sigh*


At least we haven't lost anything... wait... we have. I can't do my little generic turn quickly anymore, have to write a macro to changedance and execute it. Oh well...


As for the ent missions... I could cry. Having moved to the hotel for performing, in quiet times I do those missions to help things a long. For less than 200 credits I'd be better off begging in the streets! Hope they fix this in a hotfix.


crypticfirefly
Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:39 pm
#13

I am very sad. One of my two favorite flourishes (flourish 7 from Rhythmic-- I think it was actually a generic flourish) is gone!!! The flourish that replaces it looks absolutely terrible. What *were* they thinking?


Of all the things they could have been working on to fix the game, and they do this to us??!!!


Why, why, why???


If they don't fix this, I may have to give up dancing.


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