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Thread: Enlightenment: AFK Dancers

Flechette
Tue Apr 20, 2004 11:34 am
#1

Fifi finally come to a new realization.

It not the AFK dancers that really are a pain. It's the AFK shouters that bother.

So have suggestion. Change your macro up a bit or better yet use two!! Something like so:

Macro 1:

/startdance basic;
/join;
/flo 1;
/pause 8;
/flo 2;
/pause 8;
/flo 3;
/pause 8;
/ui action toolbarSlotXX; (where xx coincided with hotkey back # minus 1)

Macro 2:
/shout Heals always appreciated!;
/pause 600;
/shout Invite me to group if I am not already;
/pause 600;
/shout Welcome to the Cantina. Be sure to /watch the dancers to get healed!
/pause 600;
/shout Darth Vader is a Wookiee lover!!
/pause 600;
/ui action toolbarSlotXX;

Basically, by using 1 macro for the shouts, you can space them out easier and have it say a few different things. As written above, this macro will do a shout every 6 mins and there are 4 different ones before it repeats. This alone will help a lot. There is no sense in shouting every minuite. It just irritates people.

I think if you do something like THIS setup, you will find people are much more tolerant of your choice to AFK macro your dancer.

-Fifi Laroo
Niza
Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:35 pm
#2

There is no reason EVER to have any text or /emotes in your macro. You can still get master dancer/musician in three days without evertyping a single line of text.



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PoetDancer
Tue Apr 20, 2004 8:57 pm
#3

Just because an unattended character is quiet doesn't make it have the same intrinsic worth as a player. It merely is a quiet unattended character.



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WhiteHindu
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:05 am
#4

Doesn't it shout every TEN minutes?





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FuschiaD
Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:16 am
#5

Yes. LOL

I would make the pauses UBER long if I were to ever do this. Like, an hour apart. But I would never, ever spam a macro. It's one of my biggest pet peeves.




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nvoigt
Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:01 am
#6

>It merely is a quiet unattended character.


At least the person doesn't get on my ignore list. If I hear the same sentence from a character twice without a sign of human interaction, the name is send straight to my ignore list. To the OP:If you talk in your macro, you will not talk to me, space it out all you like.


slapjack
Wed Apr 21, 2004 5:50 am
#7

lol i have one shouting macro and the /pause on it is 1700 seconds long.



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Panthu
Wed Apr 21, 2004 6:30 am
#8






nvoigt wrote:

To the OP:If you talk in your macro, you will not talk to me, space it out all you like.




I'm pretty sure the OP doesn't macro talk (she only has one macro and it's for potty breaks she said )... I think she was just trying to help them be less annoying.I don't like any macroed text personally, it all pretty much gets on my nerves. I mostly just don't understand it. What is the point?


Anyway, if you have to do it for what ever reason, I think Fifi is right... run one long pause text macro and a different dance macro.






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Breestan
Wed Apr 21, 2004 8:49 am
#9

Yes, unattended is unattended. But they are there. Since they are there I'd personally rather they be quiet and unattended. My ignore list is stinking long and I can't remember if the names were ignored for annoying me AFK or harassing me ATK.


But I agree, 10 minutes is too short a period of time. Not everyone is AFK. And if they are not AFK then they are going to hear this spam over and over.. and ignore the spammer.


If a doctor is in the room and needs exp and has the packs to spare, they WILL heal you whether you ask them to or not.

Ifa person isAFK. Do not expect tips. And if a person is AFK.... do not say "Hey, I'm AFK. So don't tip me. Tip the people who are here!" ... -.- that's annoying. If a person is going to tip, they will. If they aren't then an AFK person's macro won't change their mind.


And the big reson to stay off of a live entertainers Ignore list..... if they are ATK most of the time and ignore you... and you come back needing training.... they won't know. Because they can't hear you. And if Everyone else if AFK they obviously don't hear you either. So it could turn out that the only person that is at the keyboard to train you for the next3 hours has you ignored because of a dumb macro you had running. ::nods::




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Kuildeous
Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:19 am
#10

I loathe AFK spam. But if the spam is cycled every 40 minutes, it's more bearable. I've spent hours in a cantina before, so it can still get annoying.


One thing I'd add: Make them /say or, better yet, /whisper instead of /shout. A /shout reaches everyone within 100 meteres. A /say reaches everyone within 50 meters, which will encompass the entire cantina (unless you dance in the doorway, but you're a twit if you do that anyway). And a /whisper will reach everyone who actually cares. If someone is watching you, he likely will be right up there watching you and can hear your /whisper. It won't bother everyone else.


Spam if you feel you must, but at least annoy only those who are in the cantina. Save the people in the street the grief.





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Utess
Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:39 am
#11

AFK entertainers themselves are still a problem when the majority of them are afk and they are all over the place instead of in a small corner somewhere. Having 40 minutes between "afk spam messages" might sound nice(and it sure is a heck of a lot better), but when you have over 10 people afk in a cantina, chances are at least one of them will be saying something at any time even with huge pauses between what they are saying.


It's annoying, it's frustrating, and it makes you feel pretty darn lonely and taken for granted at times. =/ The only, in my opinion, times I could ever see justification for an entertainer afk dancing:


1)If something comes up and you do have to go afk because of rl reasons but are coming back as soon as you can(ie not gone for more than 30 minutes).


2) There is no one else in the cantina/player city so you are afk just to keep the place manned.


Those are the only times I can really see afking to possibly be "acceptable". And in all truth, you know how if you sit still and don't do any command you time out after 30 minutes? That time out rule should apply when you are Dancing too. I don't know how you implement it, but if you are afk dancing for more than 30 minutes, you should time out too.





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- Utess Pero: Master Entertainer, Master Dancer, Master Musician, ID
- Andria Pasretti: Master Artisan, Master Merchant, Teras Kasi Master
- Tatiyana Karkuf: Master Medic, Master Combat Medic, Master Doctor
Kuildeous
Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:38 am
#12






Utess wrote:

The only, in my opinion, times I could ever see justification for an entertainer afk dancing:


2) There is no one else in the cantina/player city so you are afk just to keep the place manned.





I don't consider item 2 to be a good reason. If you're there all the time, then you diminish the challenge of the game world. Well, what challenge there is.


Compare Theed to Yavin. Theed is a civilized city with access to all the conveniences of technology. You have your "malls" and access to just about any service you could need. It's a safe city (for Neutrals anyway). If you walk to a suburb, you probably won't be jumped by anything nasty. They've been cleaned out by other people (and the CL of critters aren't that high anyway). But you go to Yavin, where shopping is sparse. You're lucky to find a Doctor. You're lucky to find any entertainment. Getting heavily wounded and fatigued out there means that you pretty much need to fly to civilization, which cuts into your hunting or gathering time. Yavin has a greater payout, but it also has a higher risk. AFK entertainers reduce that risk.


The isolated spots might seem like logical choices to /shout your services, but I don't think it's necessary. If someone is looking for a Dancer, guess what they'll do...they go look in the cantina.





RIP: Tasha Jalul - Radiant
Love Star Wars, but the few role-players I could find on the servers were outnumbered by powergamers who wanted only l337 l00t and mad skillz. I can't justify paying $15 a month to play a game by myself.
Still cares enough to interject an opinion, though.
Utess
Wed Apr 21, 2004 11:51 am
#13






Kuildeous wrote:





Utess wrote:

The only, in my opinion, times I could ever see justification for an entertainer afk dancing:


2) There is no one else in the cantina/player city so you are afk just to keep the place manned.





I don't consider item 2 to be a good reason. If you're there all the time, then you diminish the challenge of the game world. Well, what challenge there is.








Oh, I agree number two is not that good. I'd rather see all afkentertaining come to an end permenantly. I am just saying that those two points are the only ones I can possibly see as being valid reasons(whether I agree with them or not).



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- Utess Pero: Master Entertainer, Master Dancer, Master Musician, ID
- Andria Pasretti: Master Artisan, Master Merchant, Teras Kasi Master
- Tatiyana Karkuf: Master Medic, Master Combat Medic, Master Doctor
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