Dancer Archive

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true_Kieran wrote:

I just had an idea which I would like to share with all of you, maybe you like it, maybe you don't. I just read about skill tapes once more and thought they don't fit dancers very much, I mean in order to use many you have to wear many clothes, but I you get people much more exited with a leotard than with a skirt, a shirt, a belt, and a coat, so I was just thinking since in our business the looks are very important, how about getting Image Designers and Dancers a little closer together. The idea is that IDs could enhance the buffs we give by "pepping up" our looks (something like a buff itself that works for the next... say 30 buffs we give). This could make our buffs last up to 3 hours and give maybe a 150% buff at highest lvl.

So since most IDs are with their entertainer friends mostly anyway, I'm sure we could find some "pep up" our looks, but it may be difficult for buff bots. ID is a hell of a grind now, so they would probably look for an ID instead of grinding it and this might already too much work for people who never play these chars. They would probably still be around but while the casual buffbot will only be able to give a 2 hour 100% buff, the live entertainers might be able to give a 3 hour 150% buff, and that's quite a difference. If they find something similar for musicians, this might help getting people back to live entertainers.

So, what do you think?

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I think this is an idea worth exploring maybe.

It would benefit me as a master ID and as a master dancer

My only concern is that 'looking good' is so subjective, and who is to say what is to be considered attractive ?

We all have a total minger entertainer on every server that gets a lot of attention/money/experience because they look terrible too.

Hm.

Honestly I like anything that encourages people to NOT wear leotards and fleshwraps.

I was very disappointed that the jabba loot was another leotard, it's a horrible image to put forth as the "right" way to dress as a dancer.

There is so much variety out there in clothing, so many pretty dresses, skirts, pants and shirts. Being able to pick what you like to put skill tapes in instead of being forced to wear....well, trashy clothing all the time great. We need more of that instead of people always playing to the lowest physical levels of "less clothing is better" to generate tips.

And no, I'm not bashing people who wear leotards. I wear one sometimes, but just very rarely, and I understand why people are reluctant to go without the bonuses a jabba leotard gives. But I think leotards/fleshwraps/etc. should be "used with caution," so to speak.

Otherwise what are we really selling? Friendly heals and buffs? Or ourselves?

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Doriana wrote:
Hm.

Honestly I like anything that encourages people to NOT wear leotards and fleshwraps.

I was very disappointed that the jabba loot was another leotard, it's a horrible image to put forth as the "right" way to dress as a dancer.

There is so much variety out there in clothing, so many pretty dresses, skirts, pants and shirts. Being able to pick what you like to put skill tapes in instead of being forced to wear....well, trashy clothing all the time great. We need more of that instead of people always playing to the lowest physical levels of "less clothing is better" to generate tips.

And no, I'm not bashing people who wear leotards. I wear one sometimes, but just very rarely, and I understand why people are reluctant to go without the bonuses a jabba leotard gives. But I think leotards/fleshwraps/etc. should be "used with caution," so to speak.

Otherwise what are we really selling? Friendly heals and buffs? Or ourselves?

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I only really use my leotards for buffing since they are enhanced, but I get tipped way more when I am wearing a skirt and top than when I am wearing a leotard...

.... except that one time when my guild and I were dancing naked in the MO

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Xyrdre wrote:

I think a lot of dancers start out thinking that showing a lot of skin will get them more in the way of tips. That's just a really common thing that I've observed. Many grow out of that phase, some do not. Others still came in intending to be more of an... exotic, dancer.

I've always found though that the advice of the first Master Dancer I met in game has held true. "Go extremely classy... if you look like you have money, you'll make even more." And that's proven true for me, and a few other younger dancers that I shared that advice with. I've also had a very, very small percentage of players hassle me in game; I think I could count the number of times on the fingers of one hand. And the times that it has happened, you'd be surprised how many other players stepped in to grief the griefer... thanks, boys!

There is a difference. If you present yourself as a lady, you tend to be treated that way. Present yourself as a tramp, guess what? That's the reaction one tends to get.

It's all a choice.

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I have to agree with that. I rarely wear the more revealing things in the public cantinas. I think I've been 'hit on' once or twice in my year plus here, and usually one of my regulars will put the guy in his place pretty quickly.

I also tend to make the clothing fit the style of dance. Basic one in the slave skirt or a flesh wrap just looks... stupid. Save the flesh wraps and leotards for the dances they should be worn with. There's plenty of awesome looking clothes out there, and I suspect that once you've seen one wrap, you've seen them all. DIFFERENT attracts attention. If 30 dancers are spamming the cantina for tips and heals, and wearing fleshwraps, and you're in a grand ball gown, or a funky outfit, and speak with the customers individually, you will get better tips. Be special, make your customers feel special.

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Doriana wrote:
Hm.

Honestly I like anything that encourages people to NOT wear leotards and fleshwraps.

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Message Edited by gera on 11-01-2004 12:54 AM