Dancer Archive
Thread: OK, let's organize, sign if your willing to save our profession
First idea, let's retake our unique place in the game. Let's have a petition to completely exclude entertainer and the elite entertainer professions for the jedi quest. If no jedi grinder can make jedi by being a dancer, entertainer, image designer, or musician we can get the afk macro zombies out of our cantinas.
Do you guys think this is a good idea?
/sigh
I do not think it is a good idea. First, petitions don't work. Second, it's misplaced energy. Why? Because the holos are going away anyhow in two months (ish) and there is no way that it is ever going to happen faster than that. Third, it won't get rid of the AFK Macro Zombies, it will only get rid of the Jedi Grinders. The latter is a subset of the former.
mutable72 wrote:
First idea, let's retake our unique place in the game. Let's have a petition to completely exclude entertainer and the elite entertainer professions for the jedi quest. If no jedi grinder can make jedi by being a dancer, entertainer, image designer, or musician we can get the afk macro zombies out of our cantinas.
Do you guys think this is a good idea?
Electro wrote:
I do not think it is a good idea. First, petitions don't work. Second, it's misplaced energy. Why? Because the holos are going away anyhow in two months (ish) and there is no way that it is ever going to happen faster than that. Third, it won't get rid of the AFK Macro Zombies, it will only get rid of the Jedi Grinders. The latter is a subset of the former.
mutable72 wrote:
First idea, let's retake our unique place in the game. Let's have a petition to completely exclude entertainer and the elite entertainer professions for the jedi quest. If no jedi grinder can make jedi by being a dancer, entertainer, image designer, or musician we can get the afk macro zombies out of our cantinas.
Do you guys think this is a good idea?
mutable72 wrote:
Jedi might heal their own Battle fatigue, but there alts cannot. That's our domain...
Actually, they can heal others' BF as well... faster than we do too.
I'm with Electro... I don't really understand what this is meant to prove. I have a poll on changing our healing to attended only that the Devs might actually consider.
Have you voted in it? We are encouraged by the Devs to bring them Poll results... not petitions. Your points will be better made coming with everyone else's. 
Blamj wrote:at this rate we will be rarer than jedi themselves
We already are. If you discount hologrinders and those who took up the profession just to AFK and buff their friends and guildmates, and take only real entertainers who enjoy the social aspect into account, I'm pretty sure my server has no more than 50. I'm pretty sure we have significantly more Jedi than true entertainers.
Wookies also far outnumber us, so their voice was heard.
If you want to actually build a petition, here's my advice.
1) Host it on a website outside of this one. This one is partisan by nature, and does not allow those entertainers who have left to have a voice.
2) Have people sign their real names. Real people pay the salaries of those at SOE, not avatars.
3) Focus on ONE important issue, and not one that's already being addressed, like the hologrinder issue which is already slated to go away. It has to be an important issue and one that other players can understand and support, because...
4) You'll need to get a lot of people outside the entertainer community to sign this thing. Realistically speaking, we're probably not even a fraction of a percent in their customer base by ourselves.
5) Heavily advertise the existence of the petition.
Do that and perhaps a petition might gain some attention. Posts like this, however, will be forgotten and ignored within a few weeks.
- J
mutable72 wrote:
Bad news on that, I've heard they'll still grind 24 professions. If so, many believe the entertainer professions are the easiest tog rind, because they can do it at work. I think we should really look at addressing this permanently.
Drygo wrote:
mutable72 wrote:
Bad news on that, I've heard they'll still grind 24 professions. If so, many believe the entertainer professions are the easiest tog rind, because they can do it at work. I think we should really look at addressing this permanently.
What does this mean? Does this mean that the new system will require the grinding of 24 professions? I'm not trying to start any rumors, just asking for clarification because I don't understand what you're saying here. If this is true, I might as well just give up now and cancel.
No Drygo, this is just a rumor. The real Dev feedback on this has been that no one will have to do a Prof they don't choose to for progression. We do not know details on the quests yet because they are meant to be a surprise. The Devs do not want "spoilers" out there yet.
I can not say yet if the quests will be equally do-able from all Professions... this was the intention, but I'm not sure if it actually turned out this way. I do know that the idea of encouraging the Mastery of a Profession who's intended playstyle is not your preferred has been scrapped.
It seems very unlikely that the Devs would encourage anyone to fly through Masteries after Pub 10. From 9-10, you can still build up FS Credit this way, but not unlock.
it needs work, but there's hope. the profession doesn't die until we give up on it. I wouldn't suggest giving them headaches either, they might all take sick days O.o
