Dancer Archive

Message Edited by Ikewe on 04-03-2005 07:23 AM

You won't need combat skills or any kind of defenses if you are just sitting in a cantina chatting. You won't even need credits because dance, music and ID take no resources to use! What other profession in the game is pure profit! I am sure in no time at all entertainers will be among the wealthiest player professions in the game!!!

*extreme sarcasm brought to you by Sony Computer Entertainment America Inc. and Lucasfilm Ltd.*

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Kryxal wrote:

"Let them eat Air Cake"...

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Dang! I just snorted tea Time for a little revolution me thinks. Now, where did I put that sharpening stone....

I've been trying to add my voice as much as possible to the dev threads with my questions about what we are now supposed to be doing. I even sent in a response to the Rage of the Women indicating why this used to be fun and why it has stopped being fun. I want this to be fun darn it Is it so hard to understand that I don't want a simple cantina chat room? Are there that many who do that I'm in an extreme minority?

They could up ent missions to 100k per mission and I still wouldn't do them. They're irrelevent. "Go and perform for an empty cantina for 10 minutes." Yes THIS is why I chose the entertainer profession.

SOE missed a great opportunity with these mission terminals. They could've used them to enhance interactivity. They could've made it so players who need healing could go to the ent terminals and request an entertainer at their present location (e.g., Nym's). Then an entertainer hitting up the terms could see that there is a mission in Nym's -- which means people need healing -- and go there and perform for those people. Heck they could even give bonuses to XP while you are doing the mission -- which would at least partially address, without touching the mechanics, the AFK bot problem, because a bot cannot take missions. Thus they would get less XP per minute than an active performer, AND they would not be able to compete with the fact that active performers can move to where the demand is.

The main problem with the game isn't missions... it's that there is no facility for hooking up the people performing the service with those who need it. The mission terminals could have been that. But instead, they said, "Hey let's find a way for people who deliberately chose a social profession to make money without socializing."

The way entertainer terminals work just proves that SOE does not understand, and perhaps has never understood, the mentality of people who willingly chose entertainer as their profession. They are looking at it as a utility profession (a way to heal people and earn creds) and while those things may be important, they are not the primary reason most people become entertainers. And since SOE does not, and has not ever, understood that fundamental principle, nearly all things they have done to the class to try to "improve" it have been fundamentally flawed from the get-go.

C

Actually I think the idea behind the mission terms is to get us entertainers into the healing centers. Once we are there then the combat people coming and going will be able to heal up. Hence the loooooong time to complete the missions etc.

I am actually surprised they never added in some kind of healing missions for doctors/medics to get them sitting the med centers, lol!

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Chessack wrote:
As a dancer I do not dance for the purpose of gaining money. I dance for the purpose of entertaining other players. It is great if I can make some money while I do that, but if the only thing that's happening is that my bannkroll is going up, then it is not meeting the purpose I have for playing the game as a dancer.

And I am not alone in feeling that way.

C

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There may be quite a few dancers who do not dance "for the purpose of gaining money" but I for one want to make money dancing. I have a cantina to maintain, I have a house to maintain, I like purchasing rareart and otheritems. I can do that as a fighter and should be able to do that as a dancer. I'd be happier waiting for people to come into the cantina if I could at least be going to the mission terminal and getting 10k missions so that I could take part in more of what the game currently offers. As it stands now, that's not an option. I became a dancer to heal people. That role is dead so bring on the bank roll via mission terminals role until the devs either figure out what the "grand vision" is or until they figure out that they made a mistake and give everyone who's an entertainer the option to just dance and play music for that ability alone or to respec to another profession.

Again that means they misapprehend the whole point of entertainers. Entertainers by default would go wherever there was healing to be had. When it used to be needed in almost every cantina, there was an entertainer (or several) in just about every cantina. But as the AFK macroing made more and more people just quit and the rest gravitate to the "high xp" locations, most cantinas emptied out. Putting a terminal outside Kor Vella cantina isn't going to change that. There isn't anyone there to be healed, and wouldn't be if you performed there for 10 hours straight.

I'm not saying they shouldn't up the mission payouts... such missions as there are, ought to at least finincially be worth doing. Thus if my Master TK character can pull and do a 10k mission from a mission term on a high end world like Endor in 10 minutes, my Master Dancer should be able to pull and do a 10k dancer mission in Endor cantina too. The problem is... when I play my TK character I am playing it for the purpose of combat -- often to harvest hide or whatnot, or gain XP. Usually I am not playing for the purpose of gaining money, which is just icing on the cake. As a dancer I do not dance for the purpose of gaining money. I dance for the purpose of entertaining other players. It is great if I can make some money while I do that, but if the only thing that's happening is that my bannkroll is going up, then it is not meeting the purpose I have for playing the game as a dancer.

And I am not alone in feeling that way.

C