Dancer Archive
Thread: Update/Reminder-Where are we and what are we doing?
Message Edited by Blamj on 05-31-2004 03:00 PM
time, and some old Great Dancers returning to see that the AFK situation is indeed on a whole new level.
Ravenmist wrote:
Yes I've heard about this as well, I think a lot of this is stuff thats going into the expansion tho, not just updates. My best
guess is that their probably going to finish the dances we have with real flourishes and gives us those in an update and maybe 1
more dance if we're lucky, and save the rest for the expansion. I don't know about the rest of you but I know I'd sure be happy
with that.I haven't heard an ETA on any of this tho, will likely be at least another month or two.
That's way old news. We are closing in on the EP... we seem to be pretty much on schedule. Our new mo capped Dances are big, they
are most likely too big to Download. I can try to ask for a quote, but just guessing from other games, what the pistoleers have been
told about their dual wielding, Ravenmist's old comments, and the little bit of Dev hints from the way back Corre Forum, this looks
like the case to me.
AFK Update
Yes, AFK has gotten worse instead of better. The hologrind helped speed this along. Many people playing Dancer before the hologrind
either did not have the desire to AFK grind, did not know how to automate all of our functions, or didn't do it out of respect for
others even if they did know or kind of want to because they wanted to be accepted by the Ent Community.
Most hologrinders were not held back by the same things most of us were. They were a-ok with pushing the AFK macros to the
extreme and didn't mind sharing them. Bots had been around in private houses or PA Halls before the hologrind. After the holocron
update stating that AFK leveling was allowed as long as it was done with in game tools, we saw a boom in all AFK leveling.
A lot of private Bots became a lot more public about this time. Then we had a large Exodus from the NPC Cantinas. Experienced
Dancers refused to step foot in them and decided it would be better to stay in their new PC Cantinas. Other Dancers were so upset by
the AFK levers and their spam that they just decided to take a break from the game or at least from dancing.
This left Patrons coming to the NPC Cantinas and finding no one to buff them most of the time. Mind Buffs had already become our
main source of income at this point, so maybe we were a little too OK with them having to seek us out.
Enter the new age of Master Dancer Alts and BuffBots... alts, not such a big deal... PC Cantina Bots? Ok, we aren't loving this,
but many of us can deal with it... NPC Cantina Public Buff Bots passing out full buffs for free while advertising their "owner"'s
shop? That's rock bottom. As bad as it can get. We are there. It stinks for us, but that's were we are and how we got there.
We are completely leaving out the numerous Dancers who AFK level out of complete boredom with the leveling process, but who are
very valid Social players and will be ATK once they are Masters... the Masters who dropped but are returning and just can't stand
the idea of taking weeks or months to go through it again when they have seen so many people getting to Master as short as 3 days...
and all of the people who now think "that's just how you level Dancer."
Please, let's not start this AFK vs ATK thing again... at this point, it's just too many people on the AFK side to offend. It
doesn't help the cause anyway... we screamed about it till we were blue in the face, it didn't do a bit of good.
I also think many of the Alts are valid Dancers... a lot of them love the Profession, they just don't see enough content to do it
full time. They are not our enemies, they are usually willing to go with the flow and let the more vocal Dancers call for changes
and improvements. They would still like to see the good things though.
The hologrinders weren't all bad either. I really enjoyed meeting most of them. Many became loyal patrons of mine after they had
moved on and helped make sure I didn't have to move into the poorhouse (along with my awesome Ent supportive PA) when people forgot
how to use the Search feature to find a Dancer.
Just watch who you call out here... we need support from the masses, not people thinking we are snobs.
We need one voice and it really needs to come in the form that will reward the most Social players while hurting the least amount
of the gamebase. We just won't ever win otherwise. Try to be open minded. Social should never mean keeping people out, it should
always mean bringing more people in: Dancers, Entertainers, patrons, whoever... Dancer should mean fun. If that means we have to let
some of the die hard anti-Socials off the hook... well, maybe it's time for that too. Goodness knows their solution to avoiding
interaction has been rough on us.
Try these links... and please, try to stay constructive!
Deila's "State of the Entertainer
Professions"
.:Issues and Needs:.
Sorry but I just need to
vent....
Ent Healing: Poll for those who want to
play a Dancer
Ent Healing: Survey for those who do not want to play a Dancer
It's time to get motivated and come together... not start turning this forum into a warzone again. We did that, it didn't work. Let's try this the sane way. 
Snobbiness = Lashback
If I read one more snobby post in here, I am going to start hitting the spice. 
I'm glad so many people are back, I'm sorry so many people who have fought through the hologrind and stuck with us are now leaving, and I'm glad so many new Dancers are deciding to start posting on our issues... but the whole tone of this forum has greatly dropped in the past few days.
We do not have a Dancer Revamp coming up. We will not be seeing new art till post JTL. Right now, we can talk about some of our bugs and issues and I can do my best to try to help get them attention. If you have a problem that you need Dev attention on, I will be the one passing it on and fighting for it if you post in here. If you do not want to use your Correspondent, you can PM the Devs or TH and try it on your own.
We have multiple threads I have pointed the Devs to on our issues. Some are listed above. Use them or use the PM system, do not think that posting a complaining post in here or "snubbing" other players has anything to do with the Devs using this Profession forum for feedback... it just doesn't.
It does however bring down our community, so let's drop it. Okay?
You call me old again, Panthu, and I'll come over there and prove to you exactly how vigorous I am. And don't think that correspondent tag is going to save you.
picklesSW wrote:
You call me old again, Panthu, and I'll come over there and prove to you exactly how vigorous I am. And don't think that correspondent tag is going to save you.
I'm not sure whether to tell Panthu to run or not!
Kreistor wrote:
picklesSW wrote:
You call me old again, Panthu, and I'll come over there and prove to you exactly how vigorous I am. And don't think that correspondent tag is going to save you.
I'm not sure whether to tell Panthu to run or not!
Tell her to run VERY slowly. . . /giggle.
/whisper psst. . . by the way, Javy you are listed as a Community "Elder" /grin
Message Edited by ArgentWulf on 06-02-2004 12:26 PM
"even the Smugglers have been pushed back. Surely you can understand how massive that is... Han's own profession! "
Message Edited by Beery on 06-09-2004 09:31 PM
We were clearly told that "PvP is the elder game". It seems to me SWG ismore oftenreferred to as a "MMOG" then a "MMORPG". But I can't recall a game where you can find such wonderful social tools such as dancing, music, changing appearance, and changing clothing, We have technique effects, droid effects, and holoemotes. We can own and decorate a cantina. We're integrated into the game with heals and buffs.
Sure, our profession has a boat load of problems, but unless someone has something better to offer, I'm willing to stick it out and hope that once the "elder game" is completed thenour profession will get some attention.
A side note, I have no problem with different play styles, but I do have a problem with buff vendors, and Ihope that's notbeing snobby.
/flourish
