Dancer Archive

"jexra wrote:
only problem with the folks using danging as a means to an ends also holocrons is even if they eliminate AFK dancing they will still need to gain the skill so you'll have a person dancing that really doesn't want to be dancing (I can see all kinds of problems with this) The devs really need to make a statement saying that Dancing or Musicianship aren't required for opening the FS. THen most of your afk people will dissapear."

"This isno different then telling a dancer they have to Master Weaponsmithing. May not want to do it but thats the breaks if they want to open FS. I personally hate the FS system the way it seems to be."

I had to add this and didn't want to go OT on your state of the profession thread.

Its is a little different than dancers going to master weaponsmith because we wouldn't have to enteract with other players we could just grind our way with raw materials, FS searchers could get real nasty to unknowing customers because they might feel anger from having to master dancer or entertainer etc.

Isn't the entertainer line the only one that totally relys on other players to advance?

You don't have to interact with other people dancing either, just grind your way to the top. Its just as boring as weaponsmithing, probably less so, at least you ahve something to watch while you do it or listen to. Theres absolutely no reason people should be able to just AFK Master our profession because some box told them to when thats not an option for every other profession out there except for entertainers. This arguement doesn't make one bit of sense.

You can afk medical skills too... not as well mind you but its possible.

I don't dissagree with you raven. Dancers and entertainers must have others watch them for healing xp I don't think the other professions do need this.

What I see happening are these people FS afking being rude, shrewd, nasty, etc to customers bacause they really have nothing to lose.

Thats really what I mean.

actually you can afk medical skills faster than dancing it takes two people runing macro's

Ok agreed the Holocron's are a stupid idea and have created even more macro entertaiers. That said lets not delude ourselves into beliving the holocron grinders are the bult of stupid lazy obnoxious entertaienrs the majority of the people wearing the tag got there on a macro and now that they are masters they gripe we should be given more power an more money for. Please for the sake of the class lets have a reality check here and not blame a problem that was alllready an epidemic on the holocron people.

Totally agree Sultina.

Asking someone who wants to be a combat/adventuresome class to wiggle in a cantina for days on end is not fun for them, not fun for the entertainers who are there by choice and certainly not fun for the player who walks into the cantina for BF/MW healing to be faced with a bank of AFK macros.

The entire idea of the holocron MasterA_Profession bores the players who've won them, bores those whom then need to deal with and bores anyone in-between.

Cancelling my account.

Well while I see what you mean, I still don't necessarily agree. If their nasty to customers customers can watch someone else so that isn't going to help them much. Fact is some people are going to like having to grind through dancing.. I can understand, the idea of grinding through most the other professions out there makes my skin crawl but thats just the way it is. Theres no reason entertainers should be any different, In my oppinion even if they can't AFK it they still have it easy with Dancing since it requires very little investment in money (tips for training is all really) and less time then it takes to Master most other professions and it requires almost no thought what so ever to do if their not concerned with their appearance. I really can't feel sorry for them.

Heh I don't feel sorry for them I feel sorry for us.

AFK master times

Medic = 2 days

CM = 6 days (with 4 hours of crafting macro grinding at keyboard)

MD = 7 days (with 4 hours of crafting macro grinding at keyboard)

Dancer = 14 days (give or take number of people around)

musician = 14 days (give or take number of people around)

No idea on combat classes afk is possible though

Scout = (3 days I think)

Still researching other afk results.

I have to agree that the healing side of the entertainment industry is rather long and boring. Even if you take a big group out and dance (or play) for them the gains are slow and not very big. I don't see a problem with some AFK macroing (as the game was designed for it), but I think that people need to play the part from time to time too. It is a fun time being in a good ent group, not anything like I would have thought. But I can only sit and watch my computer monitor for so long when it is showing the exact same scenery with a few random people running in and out. But if you are going for the master role, grab a 12 pack and get leadership of the group. It can be pitifully fun.