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Kreatures

Thu Jan 22, 2004 5:33 pm

From what I have read on the forum, it appears that most people are very concerned with the AFK issue, almost to the point of hostility (if that were possible). It seems and I think most would agree, that it is the AFKing in the Cantina that is at the root of the problem. Whether an individual AFK's in their house, some remote area or even in the back room of a cantina, this does not seem to bean issue.The problem arises from thecongestion in the entertainment area of the cantina, from the myriad of "absent" but spaming individuals, who make it hard for the "present" to communicate effectively with the customers.

I have said this before and I will say it again, I really don't have a problem with people who are AFK macroing. I can't say as I have ever really been affectted by them. However, I really do not like all the spam and asking for tips. It is in poor taste and discourteous to others.

This brings me to the point of my post, "SEND PEOPLE TO THE AFK LOUNGE".

Option 1: When people go AFK (only in the cantina), their ability to chat could be turned off. I think this would solve most of the problem.

Option 2: They would simply disappear, as though invisible. They could still be a part of the group they wereoriginally with, could still dance and gain xp, etc, but would not be visible to clutter up the cantina. When they came back to the keyboard, they would then become visible and able to chat once again.

Option 3: They could be transported to a portion of the cantina (The AFK Lounge). It wouldn't have to be a large area, since they could all be stacked on top of each other. Once they came back, they could simplymoveback to the main area where they could chat and entertain to their hearts desire until they went AFK again and were then beamed, transported, blinked, or whatever to the designated AFK area.

IS IT POSSIBLE? I am not sure? Programming is not my thing. I would tend to think that it would be hard to implement. Seems like a complicated issue to try to decipher whether or not an individual is present or absent while macroing. They could implement a similar strategy that was done while "Surveying". They interrupt what your doing with another task window. But, we have to ask ourselves if that's what we really want? There we are dancing or playing music and a window constantly pops up ever so often to check on whether we are actually there or not. I think you know the answer to that one!

SOLUTION! I am not sure that a solution is entirely possible given human nature! The answer is perhaps two fold. First: Those who AFK should simply turn off the spam and go to the back of the cantina or to a side room. This is the simplest most obvious answer and the most effective. But it depends on people being courteous to their fellow players. Second: Group leaders at their own discretion could begin a standard practice of disbanding those who are AFK. This would discourage to some extent going AFK since they would gain less xp. More lenient leaders could inform others to turn off their spam if they will be going AFK otherwise it is their practice to disband such persons that are so disrespectful. But you see, most people want more xp and even the AFKers in the group help to achieve that.

So are we hypocrites, or are we compassionate, do we not care one way or the other, or are we just whiners? It's up to you and me!

I say, "Send Them To The AFK Lounge!" Out of the way, out of sight, out of hearing, but still able to gain xp dependant upon their respect for their fellow players.

Well . . . just a few thoughts! If we didn't think, we wouldn't be alive.

Smile, it's just a game!

Ewoksniper

Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:16 pm

#2

Kreatures wrote:

I say, "Send Them To The AFK Lounge!" Out of the way, out of sight, out of hearing, but still able to gain xp dependant upon their respect for their fellow players.

Well . . . just a few thoughts! If we didn't think, we wouldn't be alive.

Smile, it's just a game!

And what of those of us that AFK in cantinas where you rarely see any people at all? Where going through the logs of the entire days conversaions consists of only a few life people and their comments are "OH THANK GOD! A HEALER IS ACTUALLY HERE!" and other similar comments? Because of some irritating macroers the rest of us who lead nice, quiet macroing lives out of the way of you nonmemorex dwellers have to be punished as well? Not to mention the fact that your method punishes the poor guys who came to see me today when I was the only healer that they have ever seen in that cantina. I don't think that is quite right

Kreatures

Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:39 pm

#3

Sorry for the size of the type on my post.

Your overlooking the other two options which would still leave the AFK'ers present in the cantina but either eliminate the spam chat or move them to the side out of the way of the live entertainers. People could still receive healing from them. Option 2 is the most drastic and would serve only the AFKer as you state, since they would not be visible to visitors.

I believe the best option is as I stated in the solution!

Rhodizite

Sat Jan 24, 2004 3:41 pm

#4

so are you sayin that once one turns on their AfK flag one of thoes options would appear? thats not quite all the fair beause some people only turn on AfK for a quick little potty break or something short like that. i think something like you are tryin to propose should be for people who are basically perma afk, but to determin somthing like that they would have to be AfK for a while. but i do agree with the chat turned off (for perma afk'ers who love spamming dumb **edit**)

i myself hate AfK'ers and i think that if you really are not gonna play the game and do something like that they should go to the back of the cantina in one of the lounge inlets and do it. it gets to congested in the front where the live players should be, especially in the more populated cities. for the cities that hardly ever have people in them, i guess it's not a probelem being AfK but it sucks for the random people who walk in and find that your not there. it's borring to sit (dance)in a cantina with hardly a person walkin in but so is it borring for someone to come in and sit and watch a non-responsive person. at least in my opnion. i say do homework or talk on the phone or something if your in by yourself. that's what i do anyway. whatever. but for the main point of the thread, your proposal should be for perma-AfK'ers.

"all that needs to be done now
is to decide what to do with the time that is given to us"

Kreatures

Mon Jan 26, 2004 10:51 am

#5

Rhodizite, I apologize for not being more specific, I guess I thought that people would take it as obvious that if some kind of solution were implemented that it would not affect short term AFK, and would require some kind of timer attached. But as I stated at the end, I don't really believe that the solution can be found through a programmed AFK enforcement. If people would simply turn off the spam when they plan to be AFK and go to the side or back of the cantina to perform, I believe that is all that anyone would want.

The options etc. were just meant to be suggestions of what might be possible as an enforced policy, but again not what I would want to see or what I believe is good for the game.

I do not care whether people AFK their entire lives from profession to profession if they want. However, they should do it in a way that is polite and understanding of their fellow players. This is a role playing game and I can't imagine that anyone can really enjoy the game through an endless grinding monotony, but that is their right. Just do it with some respect for others around you!

Smile, it's just a game after all!

Kharrissa

Tue Jan 27, 2004 4:21 pm

#6

How about instead we just kick AFK people off the servers? It would reduce lag.

And thanks for using the big font, it makes it easier to read.

NormalisaMyth

Thu Jan 29, 2004 4:54 pm

#7

I am a master dancer, I used to AFK all the time....I *never* spamed, I despise spam, Inever expect a tip ....I have gotten many of thanks for being there in the cantina where there was NOT another entertainer in sight...and people did not want to go to the more populated cantina's to get healed becuase of the lag and spam...I have been told on many occasions, if you were online I knew I could get my mind fixed...I AFK'd so that someone was always in that cantina to heal not for tips, I did not and still do not beleive in a entertainerless cantina......for all of you who don't like AFK'ers and continue to complain about them nearly a year into the game, well ignore us, we ignore you...=P And please can you tell me you have *never ever* used the services of a AFK Entertainer? And it is our money we are AFK'ing away, not yours.............

If there was a way for the "spam" to be turned off when you went AFK I am all for that = )

Normal Is'a'Myth
Resident Tailor of Mistmore on Dantooine

Klortho

Thu Jan 29, 2004 6:25 pm

#8

I have never used an AFK entertainer for anything, even when I was playing my combat character. When I was going up the Dancing tree, I would even kick people from the group if the AFK popped up over their head and they hadn't said anything about where they were going. But the kicking was before the holocron craze started.

ooBoBoo

Thu Jan 29, 2004 7:48 pm

#9

I just hate not seeing any masters, and hence, not getting buffed. GRRR.

GRRR.

And I hate people with maturity issues, too

* one star me. I deserve it.

Kreatures

Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:18 am

#10

Thank you NormalisaMyth for your comments. I agree, those who quietly AFK on the side with no spam are a pleasure! They can serve those at late hours or remote areas and at the same time they do not aggrivate live entertainers.

So this speaks to my main point, the solution to the AFK problem is not in enforcement (hard or impossible to implement!) but in players being polite and turning off the spam, not asking for tips, and moving to the side or back so that they are not dancing on top of live players. It is a simple and easy solution, . . . if ?

How do we achieve this? Group leaders might try informing others in the group to use this practice when they go AFK or they might find themselves disbanded. This would mean informing the leader that you will be BRB (Be Right Back). With some group communication, teaching others to turn off the spam when AFK and stop asking for tips, etc, we can clean up the cantinas and improve the enjoyment for dancers and patrons alike!

Kharrissa, your remark for kicking AFKers off the server is a non-productive remark. It only aggrivates others.

ooBoBoo, your remark has nothing to do with this post. This post has nothing to do with buffing. Please stick to the issue.

Smile, after all it's just a game!

Velvet-dancer

Fri Jan 30, 2004 10:54 am

#11

I might have read this thread through if the poster had used normal sized text. Bigger letters doesn't make your idea better, just harder to read.

Velvet ~ Master Dancer in permanent retirement
"So instead of keeping it so that only high-end computer savvy people can AFK, we make it fair so everyone can do it instead of just an elite few." -- Thunderheart
Currently taking my gaming money elsewhere to be fair to those game devs who aren't in the elite few!

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