Dancer Archive
Thread: AFK Dancers and Musicans who Macro
I personally do not have an AFK dance/flourish macro - I believe that people come into the cantina to watch someone dance and or have someone to talk to. You can't talk to an AFK person.
But thats just me 
but i will say that on really busy nights I have a flourish macro that I use so that i can spend my time talking to everyone in the cantina instead slapping a function key or typing in my flourish. And yes I know there are some out there that would call that "cheating" too but I like talking with my customers and feel i can do a better job conversing if they are who i'm focused on.
Just my $.02
~Niemph~
Kettemoor
In case it is not yet clear from the previous posts here, there is a difference between marcoing and AFK Macroing. Most dancers have no problem with the former, but they have issues with the latter. Particularly when the "AFKM"er is spamming the room with /say messages. That's obnoxious. You go AFK so you don't have to read the spam, but the rest of us sitting at our keyboards/monitors have to suffer through it? Argh! These are the people who deserve to be flogged.
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Bulbous2 wrote:
You don't seem to understand that is what I do for a living. I am a Master Dancer; probably the best you've come across. I don't AFK macro ALL the time, just when I want to grind or make tips while I do other stuff. Now you may be a decent one-horse dancer. But I can Dance beautifully with BOTH methods. And that is precisely what makes me a better dancer than you.
Wow, Bulbous... did you get that name from your super-sized ego? Have you held a dance competition with independent judges? You sure seem to know for a fact that you are the best dancer around....
AdaraX wrote:
Dancing is about more than performing flourishes, or it should be. If it's not for you, that's your choice, but for many of us, it is much, much more.
Yes, I am aware of FD's sexual fetishes. Sorry, I'm a grown up who is well-attuned to reality. I don't need to play that childish game.
Bulbous2 wrote:
AdaraX wrote:
Dancing is about more than performing flourishes, or it should be. If it's not for you, that's your choice, but for many of us, it is much, much more.
Yes, I am aware of FD's sexual fetishes. Sorry, I'm a grown up who is well-attuned to reality. I don't need to play that childish game.
LoL you think that in order to add more to dancing than just flourishing you have to be an erotic dancer and play to customers sexual fantasy's? While I don't feel that FD's dance style is one that I wish to follow I'll give her credit for roleplaying something that works for her. If you have venom stored up for FD you might want to direct it towards her and not toward AdaraX or anyone else that takes issue with your overwelming ego to claim your ability (real or imagined) at creating an in game macro makes you the top cheese dancer of the galaxies.
I'll give you a point for deciding that a real dancer rehearses their routines in order to make them a better dancer however during that rehearsal time the dancer is concentrating soley on what they are doing they are not off in never never land (RL) doing other things. I rehearse my dancer sometimes alone sometimes with others the reason I rehearse is to watch exactly moves I'm making the timing of those moves and the effects in order to make my performance time better. I rehearse with musicians so that I can hear the music and put together the right dance with the right music.
If you want to afk macro go right ahead but don't try to justify it as rehearsal or state that because you afk macro you are a better dancer than those that don't.
IMO if your way of advancing is to be AFK the majority of your time then you might as well just buy your character on Ebay or have friends play your character because YOU didn't really play it to make it to master level. There are no bragging rights at all in advancing a character to master level when you aren't even there except to logon & start your super duper macro & leave.
I've play big cantinas & small ones & I've been in many many groups of 20 entertainers where over HALF of the group was AFK for hours & hours. This is NOT playing the game & you have nothing to be proud of when you make it to master level. It takes zero skill to go AFK for hours & automatically advance. IMO it's not any different than a combat profession advancing with exploits.
Entertainers are supposed to be the "social" players in SWG. I rarely see other entertainers greeting the customers when they come & actually talking to them - even those that're there at their keyboards. Even MORE rare is to see them talking to each other in group & being friendly. I've seen hours go by in a group of 20 entertainers where no one said anything at all to their fellow group members other than to ask for training. There's a LOT more socialization that goes on in every combat group I've ever been in than there is in a full entertainer group. And a big part of that is because you can't talk to the customers or your group members if you're AFK for hours asleep or watching TV.
Why on earth are some of you people even playing the game let alone playing that's supposed to be a social profession? What fun are you having playing a game while you're AFK? Personally I'll be glad when they make it so the game kicks you if you're AFK for extended periods of time. Because you sure aren't really "in" the game playing it. I just don't see the point. It's like having the TV on while you're asleep & then telling your friends you watch a movie on there last night. Why? To become a master musician or master dancer that never talks to anyone or is there to play?
I think it's a shame that the professions that should be the most sociable are turning out to be the most UNSOCIABLE professions of all.
Yes, I am aware of FD's sexual fetishes. Sorry, I'm a grown up who is well-attuned to reality. I don't need to play that childish game.
You know, for a while, I thought you just enjoyed playing devil's advocate. Now I realize you are just an ass.
I wasn't referring to FD, or to anyone else for that matter, I was referring to myself. I *don't* perform erotic dancing (per FD's style) OR private dances OR lapdances or anything else sexual.. that still doesn't mean that my performing is limited to clicking buttons or writing macros.
There is a distinct and noticable difference between a dancer who is dancing, and one who is performing. If you think that exists solely in a sexual manner, perhaps you are the one with sexual acceptance issues?
Performing is about emotion, conversation, interaction, timing, effects, and more - all of which have nothing to do with flirting or sex.
You truly truly need to get a life and do something besides looking for ways to insult FD every time you post because you disagree with her playstyle. I don't share her playstyle, does that mean I have a fetish too?
AdaraX wrote:
You know, for a while, I thought you just enjoyed playing devil's advocate. Now I realize you are just an ass.
I wasn't referring to FD, or to anyone else for that matter, I was referring to myself. I *don't* perform erotic dancing (per FD's style) OR private dances OR lapdances or anything else sexual.. that still doesn't mean that my performing is limited to clicking buttons or writing macros.
There is a distinct and noticable difference between a dancer who is dancing, and one who is performing. If you think that exists solely in a sexual manner, perhaps you are the one with sexual acceptance issues?
Performing is about emotion, conversation, interaction, timing, effects, and more - all of which have nothing to do with flirting or sex.
Hear, hear, Adarax! Very well said.
This is no small issue. The reality is that there are always those who believe their morality is superior to everyone else's, which gives them the right to sit in judgement.
Such people are not mature, regardless of their chronological age. I refuse to let attitudes like this jerk's interfere with the open, caring, free-spiriting way I play my games. I'm not the one harming people, that would be him and his fellow fascists.
You hit the nail on the head about performing. If anyone thinks dancing is only about how/when to flourish, they need to step away from the keyboard and think about another profession. They're not dancers, they're key-pressers with overly-high opinions of themselves.
Most nights on the Naritus server, Moenia cantina has a decent crowd and a smallish (8 or so) but lively troupe of musicians/dancers. Last night for some reason, there was 1 AFK macroing dancer and 2 AFK Macroing musicians, and nobody else to perform. They weren't all labelled "AFK" so it took me a few minutes to realize they weren't going to respond. There were a few patrons but they were equally unresponsive.
I /listened to one of the musicians to get a beat to dance to, and started "button pressing." I tried roleplaying with the patrons who came in but most of them were utterly unresponsive. The performers were all AFK so there was nobody to RP with in that regard. Now, my PC was certainly getting experience for flourishes, and I am supposed to be trying to 'grind' her to Dance IV on the entertainer tree I suppose (she was at about 25K out of 45K needed), and I could've done that for a long time, but you know what?
I was bored. Bored because there was no roleplay going on. No interaction, no emoting, no talking. My attempts at it were ignored.
So, I quit dancing, donned my outdoor gear, and went out surveying. I checked in at the cantina every once in a while until there was a group of people there to actually RP with, and THEN I stayed and danced.
So you are right... entertainment is not about button pressing. It's first and foremost about rolelaying. But this is, after all, a roleplaying game. Many people choose to forget, or perhaps never realized, that fact.
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Sinda wrote:
The reality is that there are always those who believe their morality is superior to everyone else's, which gives them the right to sit in judgement.
Spoken like a TRUE inferior.
I play a combat proff on one server and an aspiring musician/dancer on another server. Which mean if I'm not leveling my combat I'm macroing the musician. (yes most of thetim it's afk) No I'm based in korvela as far as I have seen only small number of people even pass through and there are maybe 2-3 ents that bother playing in the cantina(2 of the are also constantly afk) .
The macro while I play looks like this
startmusic(lastest learn music) in this case atm starwars3
flourish 1-8 with 10 sec pause between
start over
I found somewhere the others want to make a group as of late so I have gine to adding a
recently after many requests added a /join in the intial sequence( previously you couldn't have forced my to join a group as I would set auto reject group invites)
so if I'm booted from the group I really don't care.
However for all that say go off in to an unknown corner that is something I won't do I will stay off to the side of
the main group but I feel I have every right to a customer choosing me for Healing xp as you do. (In most cases people are going to choose the group but I get enough heal xp (although I don't know when) to help me level up. I think it is safe to say that there is plenty of healing xp to go around.
Tips?
well since nobody tips anyways the band is more than welcome to have what few actually are given.
I've never asked for anyshare for those(whether at or away from keyboard)
No some might question why I bother. TO be honest it was an experiment on creating macros that then evolved into how far can one go with macros. Which is in the process evolving into well when I get frustrated/bored with my combat toon(even though he's a partial ent he not always in a good spot
I can always chill out with my entertainer. So as it stands atm I'm happily climbing up the musician tree. The only problem I've encountered so far is finding a musician online that can train. But even if I can't find a PC trainer I can always steal a hour or 2 and got run some delivery missions.
Well these are my views flame away if you wish cause I don't really care.
Btw no I'm not going to give away the server the alt's located on.