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Thread: Test! Test! Test!

Elspeth_Darkwind
Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:47 am
#27






Panthu wrote:

You have to kind of understand how TC was treated at first to really get it... I love the TC community, but I didn't start hanging out there till I was a Corr. Just try to be really polite if you are coming from a live server and don't let it bother you if people are weird.


I don't think anyone from the Ent Community is going to be busting in going "where are teh frogs!?!?11?!?!?" and frog PvPing, so, I can't imagine many TC regs would have a real problem with visiting Ents.






Well, I did go"where are the frogs?" I did this because I wanted to test the new content for us. Boy did I get shot down in a ball of flames. I went back and apoligized for what I had said. But in my defense the only toons that my husband and I saw were new toons wondering the same thing we were. And we went to four planets and hit the major cantinas. But I do stand by my statements. Hopefully they will bring up a server with the frogs so more people can test the content.



Elspeth Darkwynd
Sunrunner - Master Entertainer
Co-Owner of The Dragon's Den Cantina
"The villagers are coming with torches and pitchforks. Please hide me."
Panthu
Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:05 pm
#28

I don't think you did anything wrong, Elspeth. Some TC regs need to chill out imo. Still though, just try not to offend anybody and that's the best you can do, if they have problems with it, that's their issue.


Once you know not to ask about the frogs on TC Prime, you don't do it again. It's a confusing setup for people though so it gets asked a lot. Honestly, I think they need to make a private application only TC server if they are going to run it the way TC Prime is supposed to be run. I think it should have a private forum that's under an NDA and then all of this would make sense.


With the current set up, it's just sort of like being half committed to a real testing community so it feels like they are constantly being "invaded"... it's bad stuff for both TC regs and visitors that I think could be skipped if they would just commit to one system or the other.






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Warryyr
Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:36 pm
#29






Utess wrote:
The comparison between afk macroing and the frogs is a good one. Both of them are powerful tools that can be used for a lot of good, but more often than not they are abused and misused.

In my own personal experience, the last time I was on Test Center when it was converted into a "froggy server" back in January is what finally caused a total and complete burnout of the game for me. I suspect I will be back some day, but not until afk macroing and all the major dancer issues are completely addressed. I just got tired of fighting all the time

Anyway, that is neither here nor there, and an important thread like this one shouldn't be a place for personal rants. For those of you who have never really experienced what a frog server can be like, try finding and privately talking to a TC regular about some of the incidents that have occured when frogs have been on TC. I think then you'll understand better why TCer's feel as strongly about the frogs, as dancers feel about afk macroers.

Good luck with the testing, I hope the changes are the start of a step in the right direction.




I will say that there's a large sense of comraderie on TC vs. any Live server I've visited where it's all "me, me, me, now, now, now."


Just one quick example, I started a TC toon and just want to see what the Theater quests required skill-wise. I ran in and realized I couldn't do them, and someone else ran by while I stood by the theater. They ended up giving me a vehicle, a ship, anda few other things.


TC folks in general seem to very generous and helpful. As such, I think they are also rather territorial - which makes sense. It's their nice corner of SWG, and the "gimme gimme gimme" players showed up a while back to mess it all up.


So I understand how some folks react. I just think it tends to come off a little harsh and that one person kind of overreacted when frogs were mentioned.


Oh well, when the TC-(server) comes up, I'll use the frogs and test what I need to. I don't need to level my Musician up to Novice Musician again just to try a new song, I just want to make sure the new song works okay. I guess I see TC-Prime as a "regression" testing environment (we didn't seriously break anything while new stuff got put in), while TC-(server) are for the explicit pupose of testing pretty much only the exact changes that were made, nothing more and nothing less.


There are a lot of really great folks on TC, who do some good testing. I only wish that A) SOE paid you people for your dedication and B) they at least acknowledged some of the horrendous things you folks report, then end up going to Live. That would be extremely frustrating to identify a serious problem, work out steps and report it, then.....see it just pushed Live. I don't think that junk needs to be happening.


Mystyrys
Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:27 pm
#30






Groovymarlin wrote:

I've been trying to level a dancer on TC recently. One thing that surprises me about TC is how many apparent newbs there are. I mean not just newb to TC, I mean newbs to the game in general. I've seen guys asking lots of really - let's be honest - dumb questions that anyone who has played the game for more than a day or two could figure out. This leads me to believe that a surprising number of TC players are actually starting there and not playing on the Live servers at all. Which really just boggles my mind!



Hmm, I noticed that last time I was on TC too. Maybe they thought Test Center was a special "Tutorial" server were you went first to "Test" your new char?


You can never be sure what people are thinking, especially if they never read manuals, forums or use the holocron or helper droid.





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Tiaga
Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:06 pm
#31

Eff why eye.... for those who hadn't read it.



Inside my heart is breaking, my make-up may be flaking
But my smile still stays on
My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies
Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die
I can fly - my friends
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SianGali
Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:12 pm
#32


Yay! I will be logging in there tonight to check out the new dances personallly. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Message Edited by SianGali on 03-15-2005 05:14 PM



(Asania.)___(DfR)____(Sian)
.NN

Doriana
Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:26 pm
#33



SianGali wrote:
Yay! I will be logging in there tonight to check out the new dances personallly. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Message Edited by SianGali on 03-15-2005 05:14 PM





Ooohhhh you can dance with Ana, who was my first character.. she's kinda got no chin (heeey it was my first time making a Twi'lek) and definitely has no skills, as it was about 4 - 5 days after launch that I left Eclipse for Flurry... but we can dance, yay!




Doriana | Anabelle

Elder MasterDancer | (sensor hibernating)

-I support ATK people and playstyles.



kirah_ashlin
Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:30 pm
#34

I keep getting stuck in a loop when I try to log onto TC. Is anyone else having problems?
Tiaga
Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:05 pm
#35

The button on the launchpad is broken, you have to find the StarWarsGalaxiesTest shortcut. (Or make one by adding /testcenter to a copy of the regular SWG shortcut.)



Inside my heart is breaking, my make-up may be flaking
But my smile still stays on
My soul is painted like the wings of butterflies
Fairytales of yesterday will grow but never die
I can fly - my friends
SWG Entertainer.com Fashions by TK

ChiiTWINS
Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:09 pm
#36

I'm also just plain having a horrible time staying connected, but I think half of that is my ISP.


Anyone over there who wants to say hi, I'm playing around there as Arisk.




.Xilev Tahi.
Purveyor of Starships & Freight
Mon Calamarian protectorate of the ashes of Chii

kirah_ashlin
Tue Mar 15, 2005 7:29 pm
#37






Tiaga wrote:
The button on the launchpad is broken, you have to find the StarWarsGalaxiesTest shortcut. (Or make one by adding /testcenter to a copy of the regular SWG shortcut.)






Well, of course in my infinite wisdom, I thought that something was amiss on my end and decided to reinstall the TC . . . wrong!


/sigh

Maisland
Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:02 pm
#38




kirah_ashlin wrote:




Tiaga wrote:
The button on the launchpad is broken, you have to find the StarWarsGalaxiesTest shortcut. (Or make one by adding /testcenter to a copy of the regular SWG shortcut.)





Well, of course in my infinite wisdom, I thought that something was amiss on my end and decided to reinstall the TC . . . wrong!


/sigh



Makes me glad I did this a long time ago because I was tired of having to log in twice if I wanted to play on Test Center.



I survived the CU


I can not survive the NGE


Groovymarlin
Wed Mar 16, 2005 1:55 am
#39

Yep, those TC folks can get real defensive at times. One might even say "snotty." I've been treated kindly and with generosity one night, then treated like a complete pariah another. Guess they're moody too.

One helpful thing about TC...join a chat channel called "tcpa" when you login. Also you won't find many people in the NPC cantinas, but head to New Unity on Naboo and there are always people in the cantina there.

I've been trying to level a dancer on TC recently. One thing that surprises me about TC is how many apparent newbs there are. I mean not just newb to TC, I mean newbs to the game in general. I've seen guys asking lots of really - let's be honest - dumb questions that anyone who has played the game for more than a day or two could figure out. This leads me to believe that a surprising number of TC players are actually starting there and not playing on the Live servers at all. Which really just boggles my mind!



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Master Dancer :: Master Swordswoman :: Force Sensitive
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