Dancer Archive
Thread: A small piece of advice
RockMeGently
Mon Sep 27, 2004 2:40 pm
#14
You have a great point - I went out with a group of friends a few nights ago and didn't think to mind buff them with my novice musician - even though they were having trouble with being mind incapped.
I do have a question however : I looked through the FAQ and couldn't find this answer (or if I did, I didn't understand what it for what it was) What level of Musician/dancer do you need to have to do what percent of a 100% master dancer/musician buff? Are there any other contributing factors?
I'm curious, thanks to anyone who can help!
kirah_ashlin
Mon Sep 27, 2004 3:55 pm
#15
RockMeGently wrote:
You have a great point - I went out with a group of friends a few nights ago and didn't think to mind buff them with my novice musician - even though they were having trouble with being mind incapped.
I do have a question however : I looked through the FAQ and couldn't find this answer (or if I did, I didn't understand what it for what it was) What level of Musician/dancer do you need to have to do what percent of a 100% master dancer/musician buff? Are there any other contributing factors?
I'm curious, thanks to anyone who can help!
Dancers buff mind. Musicians buff secondaries. Both are very importants stats, but you don't want to get confused (or confuse your friends) between the two abilities.
Aleyo
Mon Sep 27, 2004 7:40 pm
#16
kirah_ashlin wrote:Dancers buff mind. Musicians buff secondaries. Both are very importants stats, but you don't want to get confused (or confuse your friends) between the two abilities.
Pah! People are confused enough as it is, thinking dancer buffs are all they need. No one seems to realize how much more useful a musician buff is than a dancer buff. Either that, or the people to whom I offer musician buffs after I see them getting a dancer buff just don't like me
.Secondaries gooood.
And my hawtpants are flameproof, dancers!
(Incidentally, during the gameplay I'd done just before I made this thread, I gave someone a 30% musician buff and a 10% dancer buff, who paid me 10k. People definitely appreciate small buffs over no buffs.)
Bronski113
Mon Sep 27, 2004 9:51 pm
#17
I play in Theed on Bloodfin, but because of the buffbots i rarely get approached by players for buffs. There is no way i can be mistaken for an AFK player.
Its just sad the way things are. Even heard a player state that buffbots are good since you don't have to pay them.
Hell, someone in the cantina hijacked both buffbots for a few hours and people just stood around and complained. Only a handful asked me for buffs.
lycanthropy
Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:25 am
#18
well i practiced buffing before master, but safely on friends only, unless it was someone who was just plain desperate.
kirah_ashlin
Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:48 am
#19
Aleyo wrote:
kirah_ashlin wrote:
Dancers buff mind. Musicians buff secondaries. Both are very importants stats, but you don't want to get confused (or confuse your friends) between the two abilities.
Pah! People are confused enough as it is, thinking dancer buffs are all they need. No one seems to realize how much more useful a musician buff is than a dancer buff. Either that, or the people to whom I offer musician buffs after I see them getting a dancer buff just don't like me
Secondaries gooood.
And my hawtpants are flameproof, dancers!
(Incidentally, during the gameplay I'd done just before I made this thread, I gave someone a 30% musician buff and a 10% dancer buff, who paid me 10k. People definitely appreciate small buffs over no buffs.)
I never intended what I said to be a slight on musicians. Remember, my ingame husband is a master musician/entertainer. I was only trying to help the poster understand that dancers and musicians offer buffs for different stats. Both are valuable in different ways.
Message Edited by kirah_ashlin on 09-28-2004 06:49 AM
LyteFoot
Tue Sep 28, 2004 5:49 am
#20
Hehe well I can't say we don't get payback some times. A guy came into the cantina last night and started shouting "R U BUFFING I WILL PAY". I spoke that I could buff and he kept shouting. Well after 3 responses on my part (in spacial if they can't read I'm not going to send them a tell) I just stopped responding. After a couple more shouts other performers started telling him to shut up that he had already been given an answer if he just listened. Then they all started telling him welcome to ignore and turning him off.
Finally after a couple more shouts he wandered in my direction where I was obviously buffing someone because I was giving them an update on their time left. The guys shouts again and I respond with a/speak of "NO I CAN'T BUFF YOU". It was hilarious the whole time the guy was wandering around shouting I did 3 individual setperform buffs, yep 9 minutes the idiot ignored others answers and shouted.
I'm sure they guy feels that entertainers are never ATK and no one is available when he needs a buff. He is probably convinced that entertainers intentionally ignore fighters because they are jealous of them. In fact he will probably never realize how much trouble he causes himself and continue to perpetuate to his friends the misconceptions but I don't care I thoroughly enjoyed getting to watch him flounder.
ElayneDancer
Tue Sep 28, 2004 6:17 am
#21
I'm curious as to what a 10% Buff is.
Seems to me like I've gotten maximum intensity buffs from people well below the master level.
Seems to me like I've gotten maximum intensity buffs from people well below the master level.
Aleyo
Tue Sep 28, 2004 8:35 am
#22
LyteFoot wrote:Hehe well I can't say we don't get payback some times. A guy came into the cantina last night and started shouting "R U BUFFING I WILL PAY". I spoke that I could buff and he kept shouting. Well after 3 responses on my part (in spacial if they can't read I'm not going to send them a tell) I just stopped responding. After a couple more shouts other performers started telling him to shut up that he had already been given an answer if he just listened. Then they all started telling him welcome to ignore and turning him off.Finally after a couple more shouts he wandered in my direction where I was obviously buffing someone because I was giving them an update on their time left. The guys shouts again and I respond with a /speak of "NO I CAN'T BUFF YOU". It was hilarious the whole time the guy was wandering around shouting I did 3 individual setperform buffs, yep 9 minutes the idiot ignored others answers and shouted.I'm sure they guy feels that entertainers are never ATK and no one is available when he needs a buff. He is probably convinced that entertainers intentionally ignore fighters because they are jealous of them. In fact he will probably never realize how much trouble he causes himself and continue to perpetuate to his friends the misconceptions but I don't care I thoroughly enjoyed getting to watch him flounder.
This sounds very similar to an experience I witnessed at the Mining Outpost. Someone came in and was shouting (or something like it) requesting buffs, and I saw a kind master dancer/musician offering to buff him with no response. She tried several times to get his attention and even put up her master dancer title and slammed down her nalargon to make herself obvious. I sent him a few tells asking if she was on his ignore list and he said he wasn't ignoring anyone, so I let him know she was buffing, and had been trying to tell him so for quite some time. He finally saw her.
This just baffles me though. How can people miss this? My fear, is that these people think that by asking to be buffed, they expect to get invited to a group, conditioned to group buffs by buffbots. Otherwise, I just don't understand how people can not see responses to what they say.
AnakinSWG
Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:26 am
#23
If your mind is at 1000 when unbuffed, a dancer buff at 10% or 20%will increase your stats to 1100 or 1200, respectively. Any non-master can still achieve the same 2 hour duration,but the power of the buff will not be as great as that of a master (100%from a Masterwould push your mind to 2000.)
LyteFoot
Tue Sep 28, 2004 10:49 am
#24
I think they only look for tells to be honest. Well too bad, when I'm on a nal I'm not going to try and see their name, and type it in to send a tell. It doesn't help that half of them have names with no grammatical sense or slurs I would prefer not to repeat anyway. If they expect us to react to spacial then they can also.
The reverse I find funny are the ones who only talk to you in tells. Its like no one can know what they are asking. When you respond to them in spatial they still continue to use tells. It takes all types and there are some weird types in the gaming world.
AnakinSWG
Tue Sep 28, 2004 12:32 pm
#25
Aleyo wrote:
Secondaries gooood.
As an ex- Master Rifleman, I have to agree 100%. I'm surprised there aren't more Musicians out there pushing the importance of their buffs. Combat realize how important they are and will often ignore me for a bot because I can't provide Dancer+Musician.
That's why my new character is a Musician
- Til Kismeta
- On a server far, far away....
ElayneDancer
Tue Sep 28, 2004 7:01 pm
#26
That's really bizarre.
I got a maximum intensity buff from a non master musician (Doubled my focus/willpower pools), but a duration of only 40 minutes.
I was under the impression that anyone could give a 'max' buff now, provided they flourished and ticked often enough.
Can anyone clear this up?
I got a maximum intensity buff from a non master musician (Doubled my focus/willpower pools), but a duration of only 40 minutes.
I was under the impression that anyone could give a 'max' buff now, provided they flourished and ticked often enough.
Can anyone clear this up?