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Thread: returning to swg....maybe

FlawedDiamond
Sun Jul 04, 2004 9:58 am
#14

If you're thinking of returning in the Entertainer profession then dont bother. I've been a Dancer since Beta and Im dropping it in a day or two. I'm just going around to ALL the cantinas to do one final tour.. Mostly just to try and Remember the old days when the Profession actually meant something.


I have a couple months left on my account and I don't think Ill be renewing it. When SWG came out all the RPers and people interesed in socializing Flocked to it. And now..... They've all left. Even those of us that held on through all the bad times have looked and realized that the bad times have been going on a lot longer than the good times ever did. And the Good times.... They aren't coming back.


Our Profession lasted a few months.. Then the Holos and the AFK macros came and that was the end of it.


AFK entertainers, Spam, LD macros, Buffbots, spam droids, Entertainer droids


Every step of the way... every publish.. Just drove another nail into the entertainment profession and the Social element of the game.


And what do we do now? Sit in HERE... in the forum and argue with each other over whether the profession is Dead, Almost dead, Pretty much dead, Nearly dead... trade ways to disable the buffbots...while rogue CSRs award badges to them...throw out endless ideas on how to save the profession when its already dead. Suggest ideas that never get a response. Ask the Devs whats going on and are totally ignored..


It's been nine month months. Not even a Suggestion from SOE that they have any intention of or interest in our concerns. Nothing to even Suggest that the Social Element of SWG is of any signifance whatsoever.


With all the problems that exist.. what gets done? SWG in space. Kill, Loot, Powerup, Rinse and repeat. More quests for the Jedi seekers.


What do we get? Entertainment Missions. The SOCIAL profession in the game gets.. Entertainment Missions???? Run here, and dance for 5 people. Run there and play for 6 people. Do the Devs have even the most Remote concept of the Social Element that attracted so many of us to SWG int he first place??


Every day I talk to new players and they all ask the same thing. How do you make friends in here? Where do you go to meet people?


Sadly.. I dont have any answers for them anymore.





Flawed Diamond
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ArgentWulf
Sun Jul 04, 2004 10:11 am
#15






Reachwind wrote:


** Edited for accuracy ** Edited to someone elses opinion







Just my opinion.

Message Edited by ArgentWulf on 07-04-2004 01:12 PM



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Drygo
Sun Jul 04, 2004 11:01 am
#16






Sarita wrote:


I quit playing about 8 months ago 'cause it just got so boring. I was a master dancer mostly, but had quite a few other skills, too.


I've been thinking of coming back......

1. is there hope for the entertainer profession? is it fun at all anymore?

2. are the afker's still making a huge nuisance of themselves?

3. is getting exp any different than it was before? especially entertainer exp....

4. what's the deal with afk buffers?





1. Depends on your playstyle. If you want to play and part of your reason for playing is because you want to interact with non-entertainers, and you want to have a place in the SWG universe and it's economy, then no...there is no hope and it's not fun. We have been made obsolete by afk'ers and buffbots. And, the devs have not said one word about it, about what they're doing about, if they're doing anything about it, or if they even consider buffbots to be a problem. In fact, a CSR gave a badge to a buffbot. So, even though some individuals may still hold out hope, there has been absolutely no indication whatsoever from the powers that be that we actually should be holding onto that hope.


On the other hand, if you're the type of players who doesn't mind any of this and simply just wants to have fun with other entertainers, there are a lot of opportunities if you find other entertainers and find yourself a niche. There are several guilds, cities, bands, and groups interspersed amongst the servers who congregate together, RP, Socialize, and generally have a blast. So, if that is more your playstyle, then yes, it's fun, and there's hope.


2. Absolutely, and in fact, I'd bet you my bank account that it's much worse now than when you left and has grown exponentially, especially because of buffbots, and the taking away of any viable means for us to make a decent living or have any respect from the non-entertainer community at all. While the end of the hologrind will do absolutely nothing to curb the use of buffbots, I am hopeful, however, that there will be less afk because presumably, about 99% of the people in the Cantinas right now are hologrinders. When they're gone, the only people that will be there afk are buffbots, aspiring buffbots, and those who just want to grind through the profession and "play" when they become Masters. Frankly, I don't really have a problem with that last group so long as they're not spamming. And, I do think in two months or so when Publish 10 comes out it's going to be better, but it is not going to solve our biggest issue to date, which is the buffbot.


3. I do think entertainer experience is different. The mechanics of it are not different, however, earning it is more difficult than ever. The combat players in this game have become experts at what they do, and I don't begrudge them that. However, for the most part there is less wound healing and battle fatigue healing that is needed now than ever before due to armor and buffs. People also don't PvP as often either, which makes their need for these types of healing less. Most of the combat is now PvE, though there are certainly some diehard PvP'ers just like there are still some diehard entertainers. But, overall, getting that healing experience is a pain, and many of us, at one point or another have had to resort to getting a combat medic or at the very least being in a group that has used the services of a combat medic to mind disease everyone so that we don't have to spend an entire month, 10 hours a day, dancing in a Cantina to *finally* get the entertainer experience that we need to become a Master. I remember the first time I became a Master Dancer on Kettemoor, I achieved the healing experience that I needed *long* before I got the dancing experience that I needed. The second time I mastered Dancer on Tarquinas, I actually not only got all the dancing experience, but I literally capped out at that extra 900K dancing experience before I even got *one* box of healing experience in the Dancing tree. It was harsh. I finally gave up and said, "yeah, get me in that group with the combat medic, because I just can't take it anymore."


4. As others have said, a large number of people and guilds have forked over an extra $15 a month for the sole purposes of levelling up a dancing avatar that they stick in their cantinas and have a recursive macro that joins any group that asks it to join and buffs them for free. They're there 24/7. IMO, it's the number 1 issue facing us, and damaging our economic viability within the game.







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Panthu
Sun Jul 04, 2004 1:18 pm
#17






ArgentWulf wrote:




Just my opinion. Just being a brat.





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Chronos400
Sun Jul 04, 2004 3:40 pm
#18

Great post FlawedDiamond! You've summed up my viewpoint perfectly! This game used to be fun, now for a myriad of reasons it's just a headache. I won't be renewing my subscription this month.




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Kreistor
Mon Jul 05, 2004 8:10 am
#19






Panthu wrote:





ArgentWulf wrote:




Just my opinion. Just being a brat.





*snickers*... I thought you might have something to say about this... translated. *runs from Lei* /sing neener neener neeeeenerrrr!









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