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Isleh

Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:31 pm

Maisland wrote:

Eaca wrote:

Depends on the server it seems. Some servers are more supportive of live entertainers, others are openly hostile.

But this is a TYPICAL experience for me regardless of which server I log in on... and it doesn't even seem to matter what race my current character is either. My Tempest Dancer is a Zabrak. On Bria, Scylla and Eclipse, I have Bothans, on Intrepid, I have Rodians (I used to have a Human on Intrepid and she had much the same experiences before I took my ID there to Master Dancer so I could transfer the Cantina and delete my Human... it was painful to me to have my ID drop Dancer when I got my new Rodian there to Master Dancer and could transfer the cantina to her). On Lowca, I have a Mon Calamari Musician... again, she does well every time I take her to the cantina.

I also created that temporary character on Valcyn, and while she is still just a low level Entertainer, she has had a similar experience with regards to just being there. Sorry I haven't been on with her much, Devil_Tiger, since I created her to see if I could figure out what was causing the problems you are having there and if I can help you with them. I had only logged in with my Tempest character to test that new buffing macro and hadn't planned on playing her for so many hours. I chose to test with her because I rarely play her and figured she wouldn't end up being so busy. But it seems that it doesn't matter WHICH of my characters I play, if I log in on an active server, I just get caught up in the pure enjoyment of performing and buffing people.

The closest I have come to the bad experiences that some of you describe are the times when I don't stick it out in a cantina... if I stay for ANY significantlength of time, I invariably end up really busy and make lots of friends with the combat people... and I can't help but wonder WHY this is so when others have such a different experience.

Even when you start a new character on another server, you take with you the experience of working the crowd. Do you bring your show with you to the new server or do you act like someone who just got done with the tutorial and is dropped in front of the starport without a clue?

It would be interesting to see you play the part of a total newbie and compare it with the experience of an experienced player with a new character.

Message Edited by Isleh on 03-17-2005 11:31 AM

Ikewe

Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:15 pm

#15

Not only is it server specific it is indeed timing specific. If I go to the MO right after server reset (or any other time that there are not 7 bots there - and no I'm not exaggerating about the number), I have a generally pleasant experience. However, as soon as the first bots load in, it goes downhill from there. There will still be a small percentage of people who'll appreciate that a live entertainer is there but the vast majority will simply ignore me and proceed to their favorite bot (many times they actually stand right on top of me while getting the buff from their bot located 4 or 5 meters away). If I send tells offering to buff someone who can't get their invite for whatever reason I almost always get no response.

I'm glad you have a positive experience each time you go. It gives me hope that eventually more of us will.

To my knowledge, none of our live entertainers are ever anything but polite to the combat players and none of us has ever displayed the "negative attitude" that NemKhis describes. It doesn't seem to makeany difference in the MO and most of us have completely given up trying to perform there. I know it's not the correct action to take but there's only so many times you can subject yourself to that kind of atmosphere before it begins to wear you down and make you think the profession is a complete waste of skillpoints.

I stand by my assertion that it has much more to do with habit than any actions on the part of the entertainer community as a whole. When you read through pages of posts about the use of bots over live entertainers, the biggest argument isn't about attitude it's about finding the entertainer in the same spot all the time.I've met many more hostile bots than I have live entertainers. Bots who *demanded* payment or they'd deny you service. Bots who sabatoged each other and live entsbecause of "turf" wars. Bots who threatened to have their guild war with your guild because of non-payment...etc... So it's hard to put much stock in the "negative attitude" argument.

cheers,

Ikewe

Ikewe, Master Dancer, Shadowfire

When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams can come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.

Maisland

Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:28 pm

#16

NemKhis wrote:

Probably because of your positive attitude. The so called "live" entertainers who generally get the hostile treatment, are those who constantly attack other players for using afk macros, find ways to mess up those same characters, or try to gain peoples support by arguing about it, complaining to the devs to destroy another persons ability to play thier account the way they wish (removal of recursive macro)

If the players who had this problem only understood it wasnt the AFK macroers taking the customers away...it was thier own attitude and peoples disgust with dealing with it.

So, since you dont seem to be caught up in all that, its probably why people enjoy your services and come to see you. Too bad more of them couldnt learn by this and try to continue thier quest for more attention without the constant flaming of others.

Don't get me wrong, I despise and hate bots with a passion. My method of dealing with them though, is to /addignore them and just pay as little attention to them as I can. I find that their presence makes a cantina less of a fun place to be (hence why there are times atht I leave a cantina early... I checked out the Valcyn Coronet cantina briefly since that is where I usually park my Entertainers on my regular servers, but it was so full of zombies and bots that I just didn't stick it out). I invariably have fun if I do stay, but I am more likely to stay if the zombies and bots are at a minimum. I almost left the MO Cantina early simply because there WERE 6 bots there, and if I had, I would have lost out on a fun evening... sure, I don't "grief" bots or even talk much about them in game, and I may beslightly more tolerant of zombie grinders than some, but they do have a negative affect on the cantina and I want them gone.

You see, what I have against the AFK macroers is not that they take away customers (I have yet to fail to take customers away from THEM) it is the effect that they have on the Cantina Atmosphere itself. Sure, I can (and DO) /addignore them, but I hate that I even HAVE to do that.

As for the question of how I play my characters... whether I play them as a "newbie" or come off as a seasoned professional... I can't really answer that. I'm too close to them to really make a judgement. I would need someone to come watch me sometime when I'm performingwithout telling me that they were doing so anddecide that questionthemselves.

Each of my characters does have her own personality. My Tempest Dancer is a Lady (with a capital L) as is my Lowca Musician, my Intrepid Rodians are more earthy and fun loving (and one of them is something of a flirt). My Bothans each have quirks that make them different from each other as well.

Message Edited by Maisland on 03-17-2005 05:31 PM

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