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Thread: Good thing they took out falling

Etdentarie
Sun Mar 20, 2005 3:40 pm
#14

She did say "in their right mind" Drygo. We all know you're not in your right mind, and probably not in your left mind for that matter.



Freya
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Eaca
Sun Mar 20, 2005 7:20 pm
#15






Einhinder wrote:

im upset with alot of the changes there makingbut ican honestly say im thrilled about the weapon thing as a master pikeman who worked my a$$ off toget my nsel it really ticks me off to see every other dancer afk and atk with one who doesnt even have brawler let alone pikeman this is supposed ot be our uber epic rare weapon and its quite sad that more dancers have them than actual pikeman.






Considering dancers have to go thru just as much to get the money, if not more, or get lucky enough to get one given to them, as pikeman, well, pikeman have absolutely no place to complain. Why do you see more dancers with them? Well lets face it, other than doing energy damage, the NSEL isn't really that good, esp considering it's medium ap. Your "epic" weapon kinda sucks. Not to mention before ADK's they, well, decayed. Put a weapon that's ridiculously hard to get, isn't very good, and will wear out if you use it to much and what do you get? A bunch of dancers using them because they're the coolest looking weapons in the game. If I quit, it's not like there will be 2 more NSEL's for pikeman, I'd destroy them before I sold them.
Einhinder
Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:04 pm
#16






Eaca wrote:





Einhinder wrote:

im upset with alot of the changes there makingbut ican honestly say im thrilled about the weapon thing as a master pikeman who worked my a$$ off toget my nsel it really ticks me off to see every other dancer afk and atk with one who doesnt even have brawler let alone pikeman this is supposed ot be our uber epic rare weapon and its quite sad that more dancers have them than actual pikeman.






Considering dancers have to go thru just as much to get the money, if not more, or get lucky enough to get one given to them, as pikeman, well, pikeman have absolutely no place to complain. Why do you see more dancers with them? Well lets face it, other than doing energy damage, the NSEL isn't really that good, esp considering it's medium ap. Your "epic" weapon kinda sucks. Not to mention before ADK's they, well, decayed. Put a weapon that's ridiculously hard to get, isn't very good, and will wear out if you use it to much and what do you get? A bunch of dancers using them because they're the coolest looking weapons in the game. If I quit, it's not like there will be 2 more NSEL's for pikeman, I'd destroy them before I sold them.




im a mastr dancer as well as a master pikeman and im not talking money here i went to akva min killed her and looted the components myself with some friends i very seriously doubr the master dancer master musicions i see with them did that. cand no it may not be the greatest of weapons although mine is damn nice thnks to the extremly nice vibro units ilooted the excellent weaponsmith that made it but its still our rare epic weapon its not about being the best weapon its about he pride one should have in accomplishing something very hard to do not buying it from loot campers for 10 million credits and why do i seem ore dancers with them because alot of pikeman feel the way i do and would rather try to get the materials the way i did rather than buy one so theycan feel they earned it. dancers go thru more ya right and how many trips did you take to akva firstthing after server reset kill her to loot nothing or credits till the one time you actually get the components.



so again while im not likeing the way alot of the changes to dancer are looking im thru the moon about theweapon cert changes because i wont see every other dancer holding a nsel because some guy tipped them one or they managed to buy one so they could look cute.




you may have a problem with that but i happen to take pride in both my professions and i see dancers with no combat and nel as pike dabblers who only get novice pikeman so they can use the uber dots on some looted pikes.









Fainora Sarrasri

F K O D | S A G E
gera
Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:07 pm
#17






picklesSW wrote:
Personally, I think if they're going to restrict armor to certain professions, they should do the same with clothing.

Hotpants, fleshwraps, leotards, the bustiers, formal wear, etc should all come with certifications on the entertainer tree and nobody else should be able to wear them. Let's see how the combat monkeys like that.

What you say? That doesn't make sense that someone shouldn't be able to put on clothing unless they have a certain skill? I agree. Makes about as much sense as telling me I can't wear armor because I'm not a commando. I accept I shouldn't know how to use a big old sword in combat, but heck, I should be able to hold one.





And revealing skirts... I greatly support this


Let joke alone, I am opposed to armor certification however I have a feeling, every armor type would come in 3 types (which is clearly said) and every armor's light version could be worn.


What they supposed to mean is specific armor types (so far in game only one mandolarian armor is a perfect example) could be worn by only certain type of proffessions.

Message Edited by gera on 03-20-2005 08:10 PM




Armor removed from Jedi so they can be kited 'as designed' - Blixtev

Eaca
Sun Mar 20, 2005 9:33 pm
#18






Einhinder wrote:





Eaca wrote:





Einhinder wrote:

im upset with alot of the changes there makingbut ican honestly say im thrilled about the weapon thing as a master pikeman who worked my a$$ off toget my nsel it really ticks me off to see every other dancer afk and atk with one who doesnt even have brawler let alone pikeman this is supposed ot be our uber epic rare weapon and its quite sad that more dancers have them than actual pikeman.






Considering dancers have to go thru just as much to get the money, if not more, or get lucky enough to get one given to them, as pikeman, well, pikeman have absolutely no place to complain. Why do you see more dancers with them? Well lets face it, other than doing energy damage, the NSEL isn't really that good, esp considering it's medium ap. Your "epic" weapon kinda sucks. Not to mention before ADK's they, well, decayed. Put a weapon that's ridiculously hard to get, isn't very good, and will wear out if you use it to much and what do you get? A bunch of dancers using them because they're the coolest looking weapons in the game. If I quit, it's not like there will be 2 more NSEL's for pikeman, I'd destroy them before I sold them.




im a mastr dancer as well as a master pikeman and im not talking money here i went to akva min killed her and looted the components myself with some friends i very seriously doubr the master dancer master musicions i see with them did that. cand no it may not be the greatest of weapons although mine is damn nice thnks to the extremly nice vibro units ilooted the excellent weaponsmith that made it but its still our rare epic weapon its not about being the best weapon its about he pride one should have in accomplishing something very hard to do not buying it from loot campers for 10 million credits and why do i seem ore dancers with them because alot of pikeman feel the way i do and would rather try to get the materials the way i did rather than buy one so theycan feel they earned it. dancers go thru more ya right and how many trips did you take to akva firstthing after server reset kill her to loot nothing or credits till the one time you actually get the components.



so again while im not likeing the way alot of the changes to dancer are looking im thru the moon about theweapon cert changes because i wont see every other dancer holding a nsel because some guy tipped them one or they managed to buy one so they could look cute.




you may have a problem with that but i happen to take pride in both my professions and i see dancers with no combat and nel as pike dabblers who only get novice pikeman so they can use the uber dots on some looted pikes.










What about the pride I have in saving for months so I could buy one? What of my pride in being able to dance with an exotic weapon? I guess your pride is more important than mine. I didn't make the rules that said anybody could hold or equip any weapon, but I sure busted my butt to earn the money to buy one, and to be the first dancer on my server to have one. And, well lets face it, dancers have nothing else, nothing epic of our own, and it looks quite stunning to dance with, esp with 2 lances and a swap macro, adding the swirl of lightning as an effect. It's good you have pride in your combat profession. I can't say I like your attitude to screw over those of us that worked hard in our own way, and are going to find our 10's of millions of credit investments become unusable.
Sighryn
Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:09 pm
#19






picklesSW wrote:
Hotpants, fleshwraps, leotards, the bustiers, formal wear, etc should all come with certifications on the entertainer tree and nobody else should be able to wear them. Let's see how the combat monkeys like that.





/cheer



Sighryn

Kettemoor, Naboo
Temenos {Mayor}
Einhinder
Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:41 pm
#20






Eaca wrote:





Einhinder wrote:





Eaca wrote:





Einhinder wrote:

im upset with alot of the changes there makingbut ican honestly say im thrilled about the weapon thing as a master pikeman who worked my a$$ off toget my nsel it really ticks me off to see every other dancer afk and atk with one who doesnt even have brawler let alone pikeman this is supposed ot be our uber epic rare weapon and its quite sad that more dancers have them than actual pikeman.






Considering dancers have to go thru just as much to get the money, if not more, or get lucky enough to get one given to them, as pikeman, well, pikeman have absolutely no place to complain. Why do you see more dancers with them? Well lets face it, other than doing energy damage, the NSEL isn't really that good, esp considering it's medium ap. Your "epic" weapon kinda sucks. Not to mention before ADK's they, well, decayed. Put a weapon that's ridiculously hard to get, isn't very good, and will wear out if you use it to much and what do you get? A bunch of dancers using them because they're the coolest looking weapons in the game. If I quit, it's not like there will be 2 more NSEL's for pikeman, I'd destroy them before I sold them.




im a mastr dancer as well as a master pikeman and im not talking money here i went to akva min killed her and looted the components myself with some friends i very seriously doubr the master dancer master musicions i see with them did that. cand no it may not be the greatest of weapons although mine is damn nice thnks to the extremly nice vibro units ilooted the excellent weaponsmith that made it but its still our rare epic weapon its not about being the best weapon its about he pride one should have in accomplishing something very hard to do not buying it from loot campers for 10 million credits and why do i seem ore dancers with them because alot of pikeman feel the way i do and would rather try to get the materials the way i did rather than buy one so theycan feel they earned it. dancers go thru more ya right and how many trips did you take to akva firstthing after server reset kill her to loot nothing or credits till the one time you actually get the components.



so again while im not likeing the way alot of the changes to dancer are looking im thru the moon about theweapon cert changes because i wont see every other dancer holding a nsel because some guy tipped them one or they managed to buy one so they could look cute.




you may have a problem with that but i happen to take pride in both my professions and i see dancers with no combat and nel as pike dabblers who only get novice pikeman so they can use the uber dots on some looted pikes.










What about the pride I have in saving for months so I could buy one? What of my pride in being able to dance with an exotic weapon? I guess your pride is more important than mine. I didn't make the rules that said anybody could hold or equip any weapon, but I sure busted my butt to earn the money to buy one, and to be the first dancer on my server to have one. And, well lets face it, dancers have nothing else, nothing epic of our own, and it looks quite stunning to dance with, esp with 2 lances and a swap macro, adding the swirl of lightning as an effect. It's good you have pride in your combat profession. I can't say I like your attitude to screw over those of us that worked hard in our own way, and are going to find our 10's of millions of credit investments become unusable.






if you want to use nsel master pikeman how realistic is it from a rp perspective that a dancer withno combat skills has a nsel how on earth would a dancer with no combat fight her way thru dathomir to the ns stronghols down to th e botrtum of the cave and kill akva min and all her protecters. sure you donyt need ant knowledge of weapon use to hold a weapon but if your looking at it that way you do need weapon know;ledge to actually get this weapon






Fainora Sarrasri

F K O D | S A G E
Lynnaea
Sun Mar 20, 2005 10:50 pm
#21






Eaca wrote:





Einhinder wrote:





Eaca wrote:





Einhinder wrote:

im upset with alot of the changes there makingbut ican honestly say im thrilled about the weapon thing as a master pikeman who worked my a$$ off toget my nsel it really ticks me off to see every other dancer afk and atk with one who doesnt even have brawler let alone pikeman this is supposed ot be our uber epic rare weapon and its quite sad that more dancers have them than actual pikeman.






Considering dancers have to go thru just as much to get the money, if not more, or get lucky enough to get one given to them, as pikeman, well, pikeman have absolutely no place to complain. Why do you see more dancers with them? Well lets face it, other than doing energy damage, the NSEL isn't really that good, esp considering it's medium ap. Your "epic" weapon kinda sucks. Not to mention before ADK's they, well, decayed. Put a weapon that's ridiculously hard to get, isn't very good, and will wear out if you use it to much and what do you get? A bunch of dancers using them because they're the coolest looking weapons in the game. If I quit, it's not like there will be 2 more NSEL's for pikeman, I'd destroy them before I sold them.




im a mastr dancer as well as a master pikeman and im not talking money here i went to akva min killed her and looted the components myself with some friends i very seriously doubr the master dancer master musicions i see with them did that. cand no it may not be the greatest of weapons although mine is damn nice thnks to the extremly nice vibro units ilooted the excellent weaponsmith that made it but its still our rare epic weapon its not about being the best weapon its about he pride one should have in accomplishing something very hard to do not buying it from loot campers for 10 million credits and why do i seem ore dancers with them because alot of pikeman feel the way i do and would rather try to get the materials the way i did rather than buy one so theycan feel they earned it. dancers go thru more ya right and how many trips did you take to akva firstthing after server reset kill her to loot nothing or credits till the one time you actually get the components.



so again while im not likeing the way alot of the changes to dancer are looking im thru the moon about theweapon cert changes because i wont see every other dancer holding a nsel because some guy tipped them one or they managed to buy one so they could look cute.




you may have a problem with that but i happen to take pride in both my professions and i see dancers with no combat and nel as pike dabblers who only get novice pikeman so they can use the uber dots on some looted pikes.










What about the pride I have in saving for months so I could buy one? What of my pride in being able to dance with an exotic weapon? I guess your pride is more important than mine. I didn't make the rules that said anybody could hold or equip any weapon, but I sure busted my butt to earn the money to buy one, and to be the first dancer on my server to have one. And, well lets face it, dancers have nothing else, nothing epic of our own, and it looks quite stunning to dance with, esp with 2 lances and a swap macro, adding the swirl of lightning as an effect. It's good you have pride in your combat profession. I can't say I like your attitude to screw over those of us that worked hard in our own way, and are going to find our 10's of millions of credit investments become unusable.






I can't particularly say I like your attitude either, Eaca. You've been nothing but doom and gloom everywhere I look, and quite frankly, that's not really what I want to see. If you really don't like the way things are turning out, then quit. That's your perogative. But some of us are still optimistic about this, and I don't particularly feel like carrying an umbrella to ward off the rain that threatens my parade. We don't know yet that it will be horrible! What they presented to us is like a single page from the rough draft of a novel. It's not the entire picture, and it's not finished yet. So chin up, sweetie, and lets wait to see what happens.


As for screwing over others, I don't think that is Fain's point. We're all dancers here, and we've all worked very hard to get where we are, and we absolutely should be proud of ourselves. Some of us also have other professions that we put forth a lot of effort into as well. For dancer/combat types, like Fain and others, myself included, this is simply another skills to be displayed and enjoyed. So while you obviously seem to be upset about the loss of something valuable to you, she is experiencing joy at the fact that something she worked so hard for is now being made even more special. It's not a matter of who's talents are better, just a matter of perspective.



___Lynnaea_____________________________
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Einhinder
Mon Mar 21, 2005 1:43 am
#22

im upset with alot of the changes there makingbut ican honestly say im thrilled about the weapon thing as a master pikeman who worked my a$$ off toget my nsel it really ticks me off to see every other dancer afk and atk with one who doesnt even have brawler let alone pikeman this is supposed ot be our uber epic rare weapon and its quite sad that more dancers have them than actual pikeman.





Fainora Sarrasri

F K O D | S A G E
Einhinder
Mon Mar 21, 2005 2:04 am
#23






Lynnaea wrote:





Eaca wrote:





Einhinder wrote:





Eaca wrote:





Einhinder wrote:

im upset with alot of the changes there makingbut ican honestly say im thrilled about the weapon thing as a master pikeman who worked my a$$ off toget my nsel it really ticks me off to see every other dancer afk and atk with one who doesnt even have brawler let alone pikeman this is supposed ot be our uber epic rare weapon and its quite sad that more dancers have them than actual pikeman.






Considering dancers have to go thru just as much to get the money, if not more, or get lucky enough to get one given to them, as pikeman, well, pikeman have absolutely no place to complain. Why do you see more dancers with them? Well lets face it, other than doing energy damage, the NSEL isn't really that good, esp considering it's medium ap. Your "epic" weapon kinda sucks. Not to mention before ADK's they, well, decayed. Put a weapon that's ridiculously hard to get, isn't very good, and will wear out if you use it to much and what do you get? A bunch of dancers using them because they're the coolest looking weapons in the game. If I quit, it's not like there will be 2 more NSEL's for pikeman, I'd destroy them before I sold them.




im a mastr dancer as well as a master pikeman and im not talking money here i went to akva min killed her and looted the components myself with some friends i very seriously doubr the master dancer master musicions i see with them did that. cand no it may not be the greatest of weapons although mine is damn nice thnks to the extremly nice vibro units ilooted the excellent weaponsmith that made it but its still our rare epic weapon its not about being the best weapon its about he pride one should have in accomplishing something very hard to do not buying it from loot campers for 10 million credits and why do i seem ore dancers with them because alot of pikeman feel the way i do and would rather try to get the materials the way i did rather than buy one so theycan feel they earned it. dancers go thru more ya right and how many trips did you take to akva firstthing after server reset kill her to loot nothing or credits till the one time you actually get the components.



so again while im not likeing the way alot of the changes to dancer are looking im thru the moon about theweapon cert changes because i wont see every other dancer holding a nsel because some guy tipped them one or they managed to buy one so they could look cute.




you may have a problem with that but i happen to take pride in both my professions and i see dancers with no combat and nel as pike dabblers who only get novice pikeman so they can use the uber dots on some looted pikes.










What about the pride I have in saving for months so I could buy one? What of my pride in being able to dance with an exotic weapon? I guess your pride is more important than mine. I didn't make the rules that said anybody could hold or equip any weapon, but I sure busted my butt to earn the money to buy one, and to be the first dancer on my server to have one. And, well lets face it, dancers have nothing else, nothing epic of our own, and it looks quite stunning to dance with, esp with 2 lances and a swap macro, adding the swirl of lightning as an effect. It's good you have pride in your combat profession. I can't say I like your attitude to screw over those of us that worked hard in our own way, and are going to find our 10's of millions of credit investments become unusable.






I can't particularly say I like your attitude either, Eaca. You've been nothing but doom and gloom everywhere I look, and quite frankly, that's not really what I want to see. If you really don't like the way things are turning out, then quit. That's your perogative. But some of us are still optimistic about this, and I don't particularly feel like carrying an umbrella to ward off the rain that threatens my parade. We don't know yet that it will be horrible! What they presented to us is like a single page from the rough draft of a novel. It's not the entire picture, and it's not finished yet. So chin up, sweetie, and lets wait to see what happens.


As for screwing over others, I don't think that is Fain's point. We're all dancers here, and we've all worked very hard to get where we are, and we absolutely should be proud of ourselves. Some of us also have other professions that we put forth a lot of effort into as well. For dancer/combat types, like Fain and others, myself included, this is simply another skills to be displayed and enjoyed. So while you obviously seem to be upset about the loss of something valuable to you, she is experiencing joy at the fact that something she worked so hard for is now being made even more special. It's not a matter of who's talents are better, just a matter of perspective.






Y lynn /hug ty sweetie





Fainora Sarrasri

F K O D | S A G E
Devil_Tiger
Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:01 am
#24

/cry


I wish I had a NSEL for my master pikeman. I'd never use but it would complete my wall of sharp pointy sticks.


/cry
ChiiTWINS
Mon Mar 21, 2005 8:38 am
#25

To put it simply? It isn't realistic that a dancer would FIGHT her way through to get one.


A dancer is smarter than that.

A dancer would a) Get someone to do it for her, or;

b) Buy one. Hear that? BUY IT.


And hello, sony? Remember this game you made called Everquest? Remember certification levels there? Nothing stopped me from equipping a sword I wasn't ready to use yet. But I sure as heck couldn't DO anything with it. How difficult is this concept?


A TK can wear whatever armor she wants. But if it's something she's not certed for, her butt slows down a LOT. Is that SO hard to consider? A dancer can HOLD anything she damn well pleases. Can she DO anything with it? Heck no. That isn't the point.


Eaca doesn't want to USE her NSEL. She just wants to HOLD it. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, and I promise you I will make a bloody nuisance of myself if I'm told after this that I can no longer equip my RIS or my NS bicep because I'm not "certed" for it.


When the NS bicep DOES something, we'll talk certification for it. Until then, you touch it, you're in for a world of hurt.




.Xilev Tahi.
Purveyor of Starships & Freight
Mon Calamarian protectorate of the ashes of Chii

Devil_Tiger
Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:26 am
#26

If I ever got a NSEL, I'd more than likely give it to my ingame wife to use while she dances. Getting one is the problem. As a pure pikeman with medical abilities, I'm pretty much screwed for getting on my own (pikeman are worthless against higher food chain NS). Not to mention the loot campers that are there right at server reset. I don't have the billion creds to spend onpurchasing one, nor the millions to get the parts and schem for one. Seeing how it's extremely difficult to get one, I may not bother with it. It would be nice to be able to earn the parts rather than shelling out hard earned creds on it.


As for letting dancers use any weapon as a prop, I'm all for it. I never said a dancer shouldn't have one nor did I say they shouldn't be allowed to get one. I also never said they should have to go fight for one to have one to dance with. AllI said was that I wanted one for my pikeman to display with the rest of my polearms. It's the one weapon missing from the display.


As for my dancer, I would love to dance witha NSELinstead of using a butter knife or a gun. I don't care if I was certified to use it or not. Doing the exotic dance holding an exotic weapon looks downright exotic.
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