Dancer Archive
Thread: Cheese and Hawtpants Ent Guilds that Promote a Certain Type of RP and Allow AFK
Oblox wrote:
Caerwynn wrote:
There is a night club on Chimaera where Type 1 perform. I was sent a mail offering my job, they thought I would be idealHow they got that idea, I don't know, my performances are not strip shows. Perhaps it was because I will chat with my audience. Needless to say, I turned them down.
So we arent hiring Nuri out then?
Vorpaks wrote:
I don't think that possibility would turn me off an Ent guild at all. Usually if anyone mistakes me for the "Type 1" it leads to a lot of awkwardness and confusion and leaves them more embarassed than me.
Honestly, as a guy friend of mine recently found out when he rolled a female toon for fun, you don't need a guild tag to be mistaken for a type 1, all you need to do is be female and walk into a cantina or any other place where there are people who wish you were a type 1. /grin
Normally I just stay a wookiee and avoid all the fuss.
Shortly after I first started, I made friends with someone in the Cnet cantinawho was a "type 1" entertainer. I talked to her for a few months without ever finding out that she was a type 1. She invited me to join her guild, I told her maybe as I had every intention ofshopping around for a guild that I really liked, and I'm really glad that I did. I didn't find out until about a week after she asked me to join that not only was she type 1 (she'd never triedto "roleplay" with me), but that her entire guild was type 1. I found out because I went to a different cantina which had somebody in her guild who was "working the crowd." This guild member sent me some very... interesting tells. When I sent a tell to my friend telling her that her guildie was trying to "roleplay" with me, she laughed and said "oh yeah we all do that. better tips." After picking my jaw up off the floor, I politely replied to her guildie that I wasn't interested, and got another guildinvite the very next day. That guild was EGC, and they're the only guild I've ever been a part of.
EGCisn'tan entertainer guild. We have entertainers and crafters, BH and Jedi, PvPers and PvEers. Pretty mucheverything.It's an all-female guild (Empyreal Girls Club), and since a very large portion of our members have dancer in their template, we often put on shows at the Theed starport. Personally, I get mistaken for the type 1 entertainer on a fairly regular basis, and I'm still not entirely sure why. Could be that I like to talk to and engage the people around me. Or that my toon is cute. Or that I'm a girl (oh! oh! aGirl!!)playing a MMO. 
It's gotten to the point where I actually put "No, I will not be your 'private dancer.' I'm not Tina Turner" right in my bio. The interesting thing is that it's pretty well-known that EGC consists of girls who will, if provoked, lay the smack down, whether it be in a duel or just a publicly humiliating tongue-lashing. So maybethese boys doing it on a dare.
Also I think some of us adult women that play these kinds of games do like to role play more of the interpersonal drama between characters including relationships as well as in chatroom settings we do also enjoy to umm.... participate in "cyber luvin'" so it only makes sense that when you get a profession like entertainer that appeals to adult women you see like minded people hook up.....
Ok, so yeah... In answer to your question, I have gotten freaky online, here in the game as an entertainer (and a combatant)... Not for tips or because I joined a guild strictly for it... But because I am an adult female and it's something I tend to do when I interact with others that share my passions (and that I bond in a special way with). Having said that.... I would not want to join a "luvin'" guild just because it is a known "luvin'" guild nor would I appriciate being associated with that to people on my server just because I am a female character of a certain profession or a certain avatar look.
Even if I do get freaky with my friends when I feel like it I don't want to have every Tom, Luuke and xXBoBaFeTtXx coming up to me and deciding to attempt freakiness on me because I am in a guild, a female, a twi'lek (or whatever) or an entertainer because X guild full of Y character types does that.
*Luvin' as in that three letter word that rhymes with hex.
I have seen a few individuals who do the "type 1" act, but those again are clearly young kids "trying too hard" and they turn people off more than anything. They usually don't last long.
I have been asked for "type 1" "services" in the past, and its a good way to instantly get on my ignore list. (Thankfully, it doesn't happen that often.) TSEnt has never subscribed to supporting "type 1" activities, and would have been grounds for removal if we'd found out a member was doing it. We were never a very large guild, either, so we didn't do many proper shows, either -- its hard with only a couple people available at any given time. And over time, most of our members have all quit the game due to the sad state of entertaining. So now we do no shows at all.
Ooo. I like this thread. I need to find some of these guilds that provide this type of "service".
J/K. Seriously, manipulation will occur when there are viable subjects.
I have been in two entertainer guilds in my tenure here in Star Wars Galaxies.
The first was the Dedicated Entertainer Foundation (DEF), on Intrepid. It was designed to be a sort of honourary society for the server's best entertainers. It wasn't a "performance troupe," per se, but it was more of a "status symbol," and an indicator of a true, at the keys, performer.
My second was Entertainers of Bria (ATK). It was a new entertainer PA, and needed members to keep it aloft, at least initially. Like DEF, it was rather informal.
But barring these two short lived experiences, I have been, and remain, unguilded.
These guilds that are known for these "services," I think brings up an interesting notion about PAs in general. I think it occurs to some extent in every PA. People tend to define you not as a character, but as an extention of guild policy.
But I would have to say, entertaining is a good choice for an unguilded player. Sultrina is unguilded, and I'd suspect she is unguilded for many of the same reasons I am. Its an old way of looking at our role in the greater scheme of the game, and I admit, somewhat "uptight."
I am unguilded, because that is how I show my loyalty and devotion to my audience. I choose not to join a guild, because I choose to serve the galaxy. I bear my untagged name as a testament to all the players that I can be loyal to each and every one of them. I bear my untagged name to show unconditional devotion to their needs, and joy.
How can I be loyal to my audience, devoted to their needs, and devoted to my craft in the ultimate sense, if I am loyal to a guild, devoted to their interets, and devoted to the organization emblazoned on my name plaquard?
I'm tagless because I feel it allows me to do my profession better. For their sake, and my own.
Message Edited by PoetDancer on 09-14-2005 05:25 PM
Panthu wrote:
TheSillyOne wrote:
I was in the SLAVE guild on starsider...
For me personally, SLAVE has always been my ideal vision of the "type 2" Ent Guild - Heavy RP, shows and events, and they really function asentertainment personalities in the game world. ADaM and SLAVE were the first two Ent Guilds I ever knew about and theyboth burned an impression on meas the standards that I hold all other Ent Guilds up to, heh.
I've been impressed with a lot of others since then: Javie's Gypsies, Talus Moon, FFW Band, etc. It's still SLAVE and ADaM I think of first when I think about Ent RP Guilds though.
I have to agree with you. I was not involved in the formation of slave but at that time it was the obvious choice for me to join them. The two women who created SLAVE were very cautious about the reputation of that guild and thier legacy has been continued. SLAVE and ADaM have set the bar on starsider very high and all the guilds that come after have seemed to follow suit. I often think some of us are spoiled by the Starsider community and possibly are not able to really relate to some of the problems dancers on other servers might be having. I know I've had very little bad experience or disrespect in my career as a dancer.
I avoided guilds forthe six months IGbut was friendly with members of the largest (only?) ent guild on Naritus. Unbeknowst to the guild leaders and a few of the guild members, there were many Type 1 members in this guild. When this knowledge came to the guild leaders' attention the guild was disbanded.
A couple of the unknowing guild members started a Type 2 ent guild which I did join. The ent aspect only lasted a few months as everyone with the exception of one or two other players turned more to combat (this was Pre-CU but right about the time the Village came into play). Not being a combatant certainly limited my interaction with my guildees except on guildchat although they were supportive of the guild ents as much as their grind allowed. I have since moved on to another guild.
I get my ent fix, now and pre-guild, from a loosely based association of "live"entertainers on our server. We have 2 chat channels at our disposal, get together weekly to perform, help patrons find someone ATK to buff them, and generally support each other in any way possible. We come from many different guilds or are guildless. We all share a passion for the Type 2 "performance."
I've have only ever had one experience with a 'type 1' guild, I was invited along to a 'jam' that turnedo out....not as I expected and had to scramble for an excuse to run along. My first, and most cherished guild experience was with The Kinship or <kin>, long gone now. I look back on those days as the model for a full, dedicated entertainer troupe. Along with the entertainers came security to keep us safe, crafters of all kinds, for city structures, clothing, weapons and armor for the security, droids...everything fit in, a true community. I love thinking about the times we'd spend countless hours rehearsing over and over, syncro starts, syncro effects, repositioning (gotta love popular flourish #2 and the spin keys :9 ). Set to music that were actual songs, macros for each instrument carefully composed, even with /pausem stops lined up on all but one instrument on the same 'measure' for making solos....the dedication was amazing. The silliness that would ensue as we went along, the gigs that were so amazing....I'm gonna start crying, lol. Alas, drama had to invade something so wonderful and we fell apart, never since have I had quite the same kind of fun....
Now, with the friends around me in my wonderful town, I host events twice a week and dream of the golden days. So if anyone floating around on StarSider out there knows of a troupe that puts that much work into their performance and wouldn't mind a toon that is in a guild representing a city council rehearsing or maybe even tagging along with them once in a while.....I'd so love to hear from you
K'erry Nylo,
Mayor of Landsend, Naboo {StarSider}