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Thread: Welcome to Dancing

Doriana
Mon Jun 13, 2005 3:52 pm
#14

Is it acceptable to cut and paste this into an in game mail that I can forward around to newbies? Hopefully it will all fit, I'll have to check.

I'll include the URL but I doubt many of the normal newbies are gonna come load up and join the forums just 'cause I say so




Doriana | Anabelle

Elder MasterDancer | (sensor hibernating)

-I support ATK people and playstyles.



DanceRulez
Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:28 pm
#15

One more thing that I thought might be useful to add to this is some mention that some servers may have a local entertainer chat channel where you can find other entertainers and veteran players. This would be useful especially now when new users may be trying out the profession but finding only cantinas filled with AFK'ers. It's a tool they can use to connect with other Ents on their server. They may have to ask around to find out or ask here on the forums. Say ... that gives me an idea...



Shi'ann Dinova
Hot Pink Twi'lek of Mystery

Esharra
Mon Jun 13, 2005 5:32 pm
#16






DanceRulez wrote:
Say ... that gives me an idea...




Please, do!




Esharra ěsh-äŕ-rä, noun
1. Entertainer
2. Bounty Hunter
3. Smuggler

"One man's oddity is another man's routine." -Bertos Goodner (a dancer)


Isleh
Mon Jun 13, 2005 6:50 pm
#17

I like it


I would add one more thing


"5 thingsto get the most enjoyment out of being and Entertainer"



  1. Form a band with other players - Work together to create a show. Just like Combat players can do more and help each other by working together in a group, so can Entertainers. There is no specific way to do a show but there are no limits using the tools you have.

  2. Experiment - Change dances and songs. Try different combinations of flourishs. Change dance in the middle of a flourish. String misician flourishes together to build a song.

  3. Go where the people are - Move around. Play in a starport, Play at an outpost. If you're hunting in a group and everyone stops for a rest. Play a song or dance. You'll be supprised at how many people will just stop and listen and watch.

  4. Try to greet people - a simple "/greet"invites the patronto watch you. It also helps with the tip sometimes. They may even greet you as well and say "Hi" and start a conversation. If you are new, then it helps you find others to play and enjoy the game with. Don't force a converation though. If the player wants to be silent, let them.

  5. Don't forget "/sing" - You can singwhat you saywith "/sing"before your message in chat. Yes it's just text but so is poetry.It's another creative medium to have fun with.

Ithink this should bekeptsimple and short. Something I can keep in notes and cut-and-paste it in an email along with a list of entertainer videos and send it to new entertainer players. I run into a lot of german players and english is their second language and I don't want to overwhelm them.


I want tobreak the AFK macro mindset by give the playersomething to work with and something to strive for.


Ikewe
Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:11 am
#18

Excellent guide! My onlyaddition concerns the location of mission terminals. To the best of my knowledge they are only located in major cities and I think that should be pointed out. It would be possible for a new entertainer to spend a large portion of their credits traveling to an Outpost Cantina only to discover that there's no mission terminal for them. If they discover the place deserted and can't earn tips they might be stuck there. (I've seen it happen on Endor. Poor guy had been there for hours and was contemplating simply rerolling and starting over)






Ikewe, Master Dancer, Shadowfire
When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams can come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.


Sunjammer
Tue Jun 14, 2005 12:56 am
#19

Nice work!

One thing I would suggest is to call more attention to /register. Maybe give it its own header. It's effectiveness is directly proportional to how widely it's used, by both performers themselves and people who are looking for them. The more people who know about it, the better it works, so we should strive to make it as widely known as possible.


Umi
RedThirtyone
Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:00 pm
#20






DanceRulez wrote:
blah blah




god cry some more, it's a guide to the prof, not a websters dictionary. as a brand new dancer I found it to be extremely informative and helpful - your post was nit picky and didn't provide a shred of useful information other than to try and bring the original poster down for not proofreading that entire article she typed. I don't care about if what I need to know is grammatically correct- go nit pick an article in the newspaper or w/e you do for fun. God.


Isleh
Tue Jun 14, 2005 4:17 pm
#21






RedThirtyone wrote:





DanceRulez wrote:
blah blah




god cry some more, it's a guide to the prof, not a websters dictionary. as a brand new dancer I found it to be extremely informative and helpful - your post was nit picky and didn't provide a shred of useful information other than to try and bring the original poster down for not proofreading that entire article she typed. I don't care about if what I need to know is grammatically correct- go nit pick an article in the newspaper or w/e you do for fun. God.





God lighten up. To me, anyone whoenables me say what I want to say better is welcome. And since this IS a guide, grammar is important because not everyone who will be reading it has English as their first language.


I would like to see you be tasked with translating something from a foreign language that contained grammatical errors.


TakeDance's postin the spirit it was given. Helpful advice.

DanceRulez
Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:56 pm
#22



RedThirtyone wrote:


DanceRulez wrote:
blah blah

god cry some more, it's a guide to the prof, not a websters dictionary. as a brand new dancer I found it to be extremely informative and helpful - your post was nit picky and didn't provide a shred of useful information other than to try and bring the original poster down for not proofreading that entire article she typed. I don't care about if what I need to know is grammatically correct - go nit pick an article in the newspaper or w/e you do for fun. God.





Now Red, calm down. First off my post was not even aimed at you so I don't know why you seem to be taking such offense at it. Second of all, what I wrote is called a "critique" - the point of which is to point out the merits of a work as well as point out areas that could be improved i.e. constructive criticism. There is no whining or "crying" involved.

Unfortunately you seem to have reached your conclusion without having read my post in its entirety or you would have noticed that I twice complemented Esharra, the original poster, on the overall quality of her guide as well as clearly explaining that most of my post consisted of suggestions that she could use or not if she liked. Not only that, but you also seem not to have read the posts in this thread in their entirety. In the second post, Reply 2, Esharra *asked* for suggestions that we thought would help improve her guide, and after my post in Reply 12, Esharra responded to my suggestions and clearly understood my intent and appreciated the input.

I would encourage you to look back over this thread and read it more carefully before you draw your conclusions and especially before you post replies. Jumping into the middle of a polite and constructive discussion throwing out insults and criticisms without showing complete understanding of the subject at hand doesn't do anyone any good.



Shi'ann Dinova
Hot Pink Twi'lek of Mystery

Arturun
Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:39 pm
#23






DanceRulez wrote:





RedThirtyone wrote:





DanceRulez wrote:
blah blah




god cry some more, it's a guide to the prof, not a websters dictionary. as a brand new dancer I found it to be extremely informative and helpful - your post was nit picky and didn't provide a shred of useful information other than to try and bring the original poster down for not proofreading that entire article she typed. I don't care about if what I need to know is grammatically correct - go nit pick an article in the newspaper or w/e you do for fun. God.









Now Red, calm down. First off my post was not even aimed at you so I don't know why you seem to be taking such offense at it. Second of all, what I wrote is called a "critique" - the point of which is to point out the merits of a work as well as point out areas that could be improved i.e. constructive criticism. There is no whining or "crying" involved.

Unfortunately you seem to have reached your conclusion without having read my post in its entirety or you would have noticed that I twice complemented Esharra, the original poster, on the overall quality of her guide as well as clearly explaining that most of my post consisted of suggestions that she could use or not if she liked. Not only that, but you also seem not to have read the posts in this thread in their entirety. In the second post, Reply 2, Esharra *asked* for suggestions that we thought would help improve her guide, and after my post in Reply 12, Esharra responded to my suggestions and clearly understood my intent and appreciated the input.

I would encourage you to look back over this thread and read it more carefully before you draw your conclusions and especially before you post replies. Jumping into the middle of a polite and constructive discussion throwing out insults and criticisms without showing complete understanding of the subject at hand doesn't do anyone any good.





/cheer


Very nice guide, but you might want to include examples of songs and routines that have been done to show what people can do if you add something about how making a band/troupe improves your level of enjoyment.
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