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Thread: medical upgrades (a mysterious elixir that can be added to stimpacks to heal a players mind woun
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LeBob
Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:36 am
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Crafting Assist Items
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medical upgrades (a mysterious elixir that can be added to stimpacks to heal a players mind wounds)
This is found here:
http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/content.jsp?page=In%20Concept:%20Loot%20Revamp
What do you guys think about this? Please back up your reasons for what you think.
P.S. Warryyr already posted about this here:
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=dancer&message.id=40873
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=musician&message.id=23444
thanks Warryyr!
Message Edited by LeBob on 11-15-2004 03:07 PM
Reachwind
Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:40 am
#2
Nothing surprising there. One more step to elminating all need for an entertainer. They don't want our money.
CristineA
Sat Nov 13, 2004 11:43 am
#3
Reachwind wrote:
Nothing surprising there. One more step to elminating all need for an entertainer. They don't want our money.
Does soo seem that way.
Panthu
Sat Nov 13, 2004 12:32 pm
#4
I'm a huge fan of loot. I mean a huge fan. Ask Ubi, she's seen my ninjoring in action elsewhere. 
This means that I don't like to ask for other people's loot to be "nerfed", but I saw us going down this road. The very fact that our services are considered a pain to get is what makes items that do our jobs "phat loot." Cool for everyone else I guess, but not so fun for us. It's not really fun being resented. It's sure as goodness not fun having something be cool because it means people don't have to see us. This is my opinion. This is what I tried to get across in the Corr Forum. It was not received well.
This means that I don't like to ask for other people's loot to be "nerfed", but I saw us going down this road. The very fact that our services are considered a pain to get is what makes items that do our jobs "phat loot." Cool for everyone else I guess, but not so fun for us. It's not really fun being resented. It's sure as goodness not fun having something be cool because it means people don't have to see us. This is my opinion. This is what I tried to get across in the Corr Forum. It was not received well. Clicky to locked Mind Buff Crystal thread in the Corr Forum for Sart
Oqua
Sat Nov 13, 2004 12:57 pm
#5
I love loot as well. Coming off of EQ, I remember the times I would quest or raid for an chance at something that really enhanced my character (either a super piece of loot with stats or a weapon with stats).
Its says (in the synopsis on the clicky) that they don't want "crafters to be impacted negatively". Why on earth do they want to impact entertainers then negatively? I know they state that it would be limited use yes? Well weapons degrade awfully fast in this realm, so why not go the weapon route as loot also? I don't know...it just doesn't make sense to me.
Panthu, I know you worked your bootay off trying to get our voices heard. I don't know how it works really, but if the other correspondents (or anyone else involved that plays the game extensively and has a vote on this) can't see how this would negatively impact a profession that already is constantly being beaten into a pulp...well, thats a really sad thing.
Yes I know loot is supposed to be rare. Anything though at this point that reaffirms the need to sidestep an entertainer's role in the galaxy just highlights that we shouldn't be "needed". We have so much already thats being limited or taken away in regards to content just by the way the system is set up now.
I guess what I am trying to understand is why are we "resented"? I really don't understand that. I know when I am on Tryna fighting, I don't hate anyone just because I have trouble finding their services when I need them.
I am sorry, it just seems like the last few weeks have been just one blow after another to our professions. *tired sigh*
LeBob
Sat Nov 13, 2004 2:18 pm
#6
doh!
I had thought I saw one somewhere, but I could not remember where : /
thanks!
PoetDancer
Sat Nov 13, 2004 2:38 pm
#8
I hate loot. Why? Because it takes professions out of the game. When was the last time a crafter was really respected? How can they be when blessings from "the loot god" have features that go beyond what they are capable of? Loot too has always affected our profession especially, especially in terms of buffing percentages. I am so sick and tired of seeing that darn exotic leo on every two bit buffbot I see . But what real incentive is therenot towear it? In fact, what incentive is there to be a male dancer, when you discover that being female gets you access to loot to buff 5% better? And don't even get me started on SEAs. It makes the cantinas resemble a second hand store and an expedition party with all the hodge-podge of clothing items necessary to get it to the mythical +25%. But do we want that? Or does our audience? And if it is our audience, will they tip us more just for having them?
So yes. I hate loot. The more the simulation revolves around the aquisition of objects with mythic properties, the less it starts to resemble life, and the more it starts to resemble a silly farce...and a bad one at that.
Message Edited by PoetDancer on 11-13-2004 03:39 PM
LeBob
Sat Nov 13, 2004 2:44 pm
#9
I do not hate loot. I like it... but it should be designed in a way that keeps profession roles viable. One way of doing this is to require certain professions to 'activate' the loot. There are better ways to describe this, but I think it suffices for the example.
One example is space loot in JTL. Players can use this by themselves, but it can be enhanced by SWs.
Xyrdre
Sat Nov 13, 2004 3:00 pm
#10
DrendalKahn wrote:
Does it heal battle fatigue?
Not as described. It sounded to me like a loot component that medics/docs would use in med crafting that would enable the creation of a mind wound pack.
Maybe just semantics here, but anyone notice that they mentioned that the mysterious elixir could beadded to "stimpacks", rather than "wound packs"? Was there a slip of the terminology? Could be here that they really mean mind damage healing being added into stimpacks, rather than mind wounds being healed by a new kind of Mind Wound Pack. By naming conventions, Stimpacks heal damage, Wound Packs heal wounds.I'm starting to wonder now...
Xyrdre
Sun Nov 14, 2004 1:58 am
#11
There was just recently a thread about this here on the Dancer boards, if anyone cares to peruse it.
MichailArris
Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:18 am
#12
Well if its like some of the items I've looted on the TC so far. Its not going to hurt the Entertainment Professions. Basically it works like a Stim Pack not as a Wound Pack.
I've looted some things that look like a Stim Pack A, that heals Health, Action and Mind pools for 50 points, but they don't cure any current wounds for those pools.
So the best thing is to keep an eye on it, and make sure what is going to actually happen, and not jump to any conclusions before the loot revamp is done.
psycocat
Mon Nov 15, 2004 1:37 am
#13
If all it does is heal damage and not wounds this wouldn't harm ents at all and is something I could use with my stupid mind sucking Stun baton.
on the subject of loot....the best loot is decoration IMO because the weapons die or run out of uses (which you have no control over their usage).
Same to be said with armor, although when that runs out you can use it for decoration too.
Exceptional Weapons are only viable in use. On the wall they are just bragging rights.
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