Dancer Archive

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Else-Whira wrote:

A lot of that comes from the fact that new players learn from websites like these, third party sites and from the playerbase at large. As it stands right now... How are entertainers viewed? Basically in most players minds anyone dancing or playing music is AFK. If I don't imediately greet everyone who comes through the door or reply instantly to anyone that even speaks in my immediate area I get lines like, "stupid AFKer" or "i guess no one is here to invite me to else grp". It sucks that this is the way things are, but no one seems to be interested in actively changing the sterotype.

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I think I'm just going to start playing in Coronet cantina everyday after work for 3 hours, all the while yelling constantly, "I'm not AFK, all Entertainers aren't AFK, come say hi and relax. No talking required. No chit chat needed. Conversations always appreciated."

Just wanted to say I'm one who finds the stereotype to be very old and must be shattered. I'm so darn sick of it.

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Ikewe wrote:

Sci,

I have even tried that approach as well. Still got nothing... no smirk, no wave, no eye roll, nada.

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Scip, I think this only works for those of us guysthat can back up the claim

Ultimately, they are several types of ATKentertainers in a given cantina...

1. Those who come to spend time with peers. ("Social Butterfly" These individuals don't cater to patrons, but are rather there to have a good time, especially with their fellow entertainers.)

2. Those who come to entertain patrons. ("Pure Business" These individualswill launch into conversation with any patron, in hopes of better tips, but often regard other entertainers as competition rather then peers.)

3. Those who come to spend time in the cantina atmosphere. ("Lurker" These entertainers are often shy. They'd often rather observe chat, then take an active part in it.)

Entertainers are not limited to one type, but rather may be a combination of two or three types. Prior to AFK's the social atmospheres of cantinas caused most entertainers to lean heavily towards category one. This trait is still present in a large amount of veteran entertainers. However, with the coming of AFK's veterans ents found the cantina's weren't as lively as before and many began to spend less and less time in them. Those who stayed turned to group chat, guild chat, chat channels and tells for their social outlets. This has adversely affected new entertainers in the sense that they have leveled to master in an enviorment that in no way promotes entertainer to entertainer interaction. Newer players tend to lean more towards categories two and three nowadays, if they have not succumbed to AFK'ing.

For those who remain ATK,spatial chat can oftenbe daunting to follow, without practice andones full attention. From emotes to spam,most players, especially newer ones have trouble keepingup.The condition that the social atmosphere of cantinas has decayed to, has convinced many watching spatial isn't worth the effort, when it is ten times easier to converse in group, guild, chat channelsor tells.

However, as rampant as this problem has become, hope is not lost.

Veterans need to spend time in the cantinas again, not for the experience or for the tips, but rather to teach new entertainers what it means to entertain and just how fun entertaining can be.Takenew entertainers to parties, and gatherings. Get them in guilds or on the chat channels.

Bring friends and fellow veteran entertainers to cantinas. Players will often join in and open up in a more friendly enviorment. A group of entertainers having a great time is much more enticing and less intimidatingthena loneentertainerattempting to be the life of the party.

Take small steps, send tells or greet people by name. Try to get the attention of one entertainer at a time. Join conversations that are already going. Use emotes to attract attention. Work on opening up one individual, rather then generally addressing the entire group.

P.S. Keep in mind that just because there is no AFK tag doesn't mean a player isn't AFK.

                        /  \/  \                           
                       /| 0 0 | \                          
+----------------.oooO--|  /  | --Oooo.-------------------+ 
| Doasa Arsim            \_-_/       Events Coordinator   | 
| Master Musician    .oooO   Oooo.   Master Entertainer   | 
| Fifth River Cantina(   )   (   )   Four Rivers, Correlia| 
+---------------------\ (-----) /-------------------------+ 
                       \_)   (_/    

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Schardour wrote:

Scip, I think this only works for those of us guysthat can back up the claim

*ducks away fromIkewe*

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No more cookies for you young man!

but hugs anyway,

Ikewe, Master Dancer Shadowfire

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Schardour wrote:

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Ikewe wrote:

Sci,

I have even tried that approach as well. Still got nothing... no smirk, no wave, no eye roll, nada.

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Scip, I think this only works for those of us guys that can back up the claim

*ducks away from Ikewe*

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bawler14 wrote:

Ultimately, they are several types of ATKentertainers in a given cantina...

1. Those who come to spend time with peers. ("Social Butterfly" These individuals don't cater to patrons, but are rather there to have a good time, especially with their fellow entertainers.)

2. Those who come to entertain patrons. ("Pure Business" These individualswill launch into conversation with any patron, in hopes of better tips, but often regard other entertainers as competition rather then peers.)

3. Those who come to spend time in the cantina atmosphere. ("Lurker" These entertainers are often shy. They'd often rather observe chat, then take an active part in it.)

Entertainers are not limited to one type, but rather may be a combination of two or three types. Prior to AFK's the social atmospheres of cantinas caused most entertainers to lean heavily towards category one. This trait is still present in a large amount of veteran entertainers. However, with the coming of AFK's veterans ents found the cantina's weren't as lively as before and many began to spend less and less time in them. Those who stayed turned to group chat, guild chat, chat channels and tells for their social outlets. This has adversely affected new entertainers in the sense that they have leveled to master in an enviorment that in no way promotes entertainer to entertainer interaction. Newer players tend to lean more towards categories two and three nowadays, if they have not succumbed to AFK'ing.

For those who remain ATK,spatial chat can oftenbe daunting to follow, without practice andones full attention. From emotes to spam,most players, especially newer ones have trouble keepingup.The condition that the social atmosphere of cantinas has decayed to, has convinced many watching spatial isn't worth the effort, when it is ten times easier to converse in group, guild, chat channelsor tells.

However, as rampant as this problem has become, hope is not lost.

Veterans need to spend time in the cantinas again, not for the experience or for the tips, but rather to teach new entertainers what it means to entertain and just how fun entertaining can be.Takenew entertainers to parties, and gatherings. Get them in guilds or on the chat channels.

Bring friends and fellow veteran entertainers to cantinas. Players will often join in and open up in a more friendly enviorment. A group of entertainers having a great time is much more enticing and less intimidatingthena loneentertainerattempting to be the life of the party.

Take small steps, send tells or greet people by name. Try to get the attention of one entertainer at a time. Join conversations that are already going. Use emotes to attract attention. Work on opening up one individual, rather then generally addressing the entire group.

P.S. Keep in mind that just because there is no AFK tag doesn't mean a player isn't AFK.

Good post