Creature Handler Archive
Thread: Lack of Red Names
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SkyPreacher1
Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:53 am
#1
You ever notice that there are never any red names on these posts?
Is it cause they are red from getting flamed for incompetence? Or is it that they just don't like to hear how bad they are doing?
So many questions so few answers. Makes you wonder.
Pluto9Moon
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:22 am
#2
Sky,
I agree the lack of red names is disenchanting. There have been many constructive posts that have been overlooked. The sad irony is that many of them are spending time perfecting Jedi and JTL. Most CH will have no need to buy JTL as it does nothing for our profession. I most certainly am not buying it.
In the end, it will come down to getting the attention we deserve or finding a new game. Playing COH lately has been more fun that SWG. No red name has wanted to speak with CH. There is little we can do to change their minds about our plight. They see us as "fixed" and we see us as broken and/or stagnant.
I agree the lack of red names is disenchanting. There have been many constructive posts that have been overlooked. The sad irony is that many of them are spending time perfecting Jedi and JTL. Most CH will have no need to buy JTL as it does nothing for our profession. I most certainly am not buying it.
In the end, it will come down to getting the attention we deserve or finding a new game. Playing COH lately has been more fun that SWG. No red name has wanted to speak with CH. There is little we can do to change their minds about our plight. They see us as "fixed" and we see us as broken and/or stagnant.
MrHawat
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:26 am
#3
On the plus side, you can be sure Vert passes on the good ideas to the Devs. On the minus side, you can be sure Devs tell him good ideas we will look into and then trash them. lol
KzinKiller
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:27 am
#4
They haven't spared two seconds of dev time to this profession since December and there's no reason to think it will change in our lifetimes.
marxo777
Wed Jun 30, 2004 10:42 am
#5
2 new mounts
Pets can be called anywhere now
No vit loss in PvP
This is just the stuff I can remember.
SkyPreacher1
Wed Jun 30, 2004 11:32 am
#6
Let's see:
2 new mounts only CH's can ride, Big whoop
No loss of Vit in PVP so that means 22 of my pets can be slaughtered in ummmm 24 seconds YEAH just what i wanted.
AND they gave back pets being called anywhere except now it's got a 15 second delay unless you are attacked where pre december i could call them anywhere instantly. Hmmm that sounds like a good deal too........................................NOT.
I figured it out though when a Dev says "fixed" he doesn't mean that the bugs and exploits will be taken care of. No he means it like this; "i took my dog to the vet to be fixed." You know, neutered. So the Devs "fixed" CH and we have been stuck in "neutered" state for over 6 months and I am supposed to be happy. I don't think so. So as a "fixed" profession you are a happy person and you actually believe they are going to go ahead with Combat Rebalance?
If you really believe that, I have some really nice bridges to sell you, send me the money first and I will send you the deeds ok.
Aakhperkare
Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:05 pm
#7
It is very disturbing, the lack of red names anywhere near the CH forum. We have been pretty much forgotten and ignored since December. We are never even mentioned from a red name anywhere. Why is that?
You can feel how stagnant it is for this profession. It's sickening...
Nhari
Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:58 pm
#8
It's not just this profession's forum. None of the entertainer professional boards have seen a red name in at least nine months. The only red name I saw on the fencer board recently was Thunderheart telling the community that Raphayl (the best correspondent I've seen for any profession, no offense Vert) had been killed in a car accident. Nothing on the Swordsman board for ages, nothing on the Teras Kasi board for ages. They do claim they're reading the forums, though that kind of thing is impossible to check. If they are, however, it's not too difficult to understand why they'd be reluctant to post. It's pretty rare that you see posts saying "I love this profession! Thanks, devs!" You see a lot of "I'm dropping this profession until the stupid devs fix it!" posts. The thing is, you see those posts on every single profession board. I chalk it up to a "grass is always greener" mentality, aka uninformed envy.
I do suspect, as was stated earlier in the thread, that 99% of the developers' time is spent on JTL. I think once the combat rebalance is finished, the ground game will essentially be "done" for at least ayear. They'll most likely be using post-JTL launch time to fix the inevitable bugs and game-breaking issuesin that game. I really hope I'm wrong, but I don't believe I am. I guess we'll see. Either way, we're definitely not the only forum with a lack of developer input. We're one of around thirty.
Message Edited by Nhari on 06-30-2004 01:59 PM
SkyPreacher1
Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:08 pm
#9
Actually we are one of 36, we were one of 36 that actually worked before December "fix", is that a sharp knife in your hands TH. RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN.
It doesn't really matter though does it. Over the past months this is what we have tried:
1) Reasonable conversation: response- NONE
2) Flaming: response- NONE
3) Top Issues: response-None
4) Brand new Ideas: response- NONE
5) Petitions: response- NONE
I said earlier if the SWG community wants to get SOE's attention what we do is simply for the summer months unsubscribe. If suddenly thousands of players unsubscribed I think that would get their attention or at least the accountants attention which in turn would probably get someones attention.
But we will never see that happen cause people can't agree on a course of action to bring attention to all the issues in this game. Soo we will continue to mutter and the Devs will continue to ignore us and the game will eventually grind into the ground.
KzinKiller
Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:57 pm
#10
2 new mounts
2
Pets can be called anywhere now
No vit loss in PvP
KzinKiller
Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:00 pm
#11
2 new mounts
2 more that nobody wants
Pets can be called anywhere now
Not aimed at the CH profession any more than anybody else
No vit loss in PvP
Not aimed at the CH profession any more than anybody else, and did nothing except infinitesmally lowering the cost of pet uselessness in PvP
Basically, three things that haven't been on any MCH's wish list ever, if we had to prioritize our top 50.
Pluto9Moon
Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:14 pm
#12
Sky,
You hit the nail on the head. TH is the fundamental problem with CH. Others suggest he was a good player in beta. Apparently he is just another fan boi who sucked up to a job. I will not falsely praise a Dev team that has given me the most lack luster performance since Sylvester Stallone in Cobra.
PvP Pet Decay? Who cares I quit PvP in December. Too little too late.
Cupas and Banthas? Most CH's were not impressed to get two more useless mounts when we wanted fixed bugs such as autostore, Mounts not following, etc, etc.
No camps? That has been addressed, we would not have seen a change if speeders did not autostore as well. Instead we get a ridiculous timer based on some unbeknownst exploit.
CH Role? Never answered. TH had a meaningless thread that he did not follow up on.
Jedi? Like I give a ****.
JTL? I will likely buy COH and COV (when it comes out) before I will buy a new expansion from SOE. I failed in the end to find any value left to EQ and can only infer that SOE will continue the track record of new expansions over bug fixes.
Hutt Faction? Still missing after many promises that it would be in the game. Somehow the unimaginative people at SOE cannot read the LINK BELOW to see that this could be implemented as a working third faction.
One SWG Planet will be bigger than an EQ server? LOL. This was hilarious to recall after being in the game for only weeks. The lack of content with the lack of zones only shows that SOE's pathetic marketing will say anything to retain more costumers.
Dabbling is encouraged? Unless you are dabbling in CH. This should have been the one sign that SWG Devs are not and will never be interested in CH as a profession.
Frankly, after one year I am far from impressed.
You hit the nail on the head. TH is the fundamental problem with CH. Others suggest he was a good player in beta. Apparently he is just another fan boi who sucked up to a job. I will not falsely praise a Dev team that has given me the most lack luster performance since Sylvester Stallone in Cobra.
PvP Pet Decay? Who cares I quit PvP in December. Too little too late.
Cupas and Banthas? Most CH's were not impressed to get two more useless mounts when we wanted fixed bugs such as autostore, Mounts not following, etc, etc.
No camps? That has been addressed, we would not have seen a change if speeders did not autostore as well. Instead we get a ridiculous timer based on some unbeknownst exploit.
CH Role? Never answered. TH had a meaningless thread that he did not follow up on.
Jedi? Like I give a ****.
JTL? I will likely buy COH and COV (when it comes out) before I will buy a new expansion from SOE. I failed in the end to find any value left to EQ and can only infer that SOE will continue the track record of new expansions over bug fixes.
Hutt Faction? Still missing after many promises that it would be in the game. Somehow the unimaginative people at SOE cannot read the LINK BELOW to see that this could be implemented as a working third faction.
One SWG Planet will be bigger than an EQ server? LOL. This was hilarious to recall after being in the game for only weeks. The lack of content with the lack of zones only shows that SOE's pathetic marketing will say anything to retain more costumers.
Dabbling is encouraged? Unless you are dabbling in CH. This should have been the one sign that SWG Devs are not and will never be interested in CH as a profession.
Frankly, after one year I am far from impressed.
ZonJaiNezBA
Wed Jun 30, 2004 4:44 pm
#13
KzinKiller wrote:
2 new mounts
2 more that nobody wants
No vit loss in PvP
Not aimed at the CH profession any more than anybody else, and did nothing except infinitesmally lowering the cost of pet uselessness in PvP
Basically, three things that haven't been on any MCH's wish list ever, if we had to prioritize our top 50.
Umm, the new mounts were on a lot of peoples wish lists when they were left off the original mount list.
And why are these only CH mounts? I don't understand this statement. It was only shortly before this that BEs were even given Cu Pas as skins. Which is when they decided that BE is where people go to get pets, they just over figured that CH's would be happy to train them for people. Of course pet levels didn't exist a year ago, so they would have been fine as Non CH mounts.
Vitality loss in PvP being removed was on a number of peoples wish lists. I will happily pull out my Grand Wrix again, might even get a second and a Mottled for a nice trio.Something to go Imp hunting with again. (I don't care if I lose, I do care if my pets do)
Outside of our requests for all creatures under CL70 to spawn babies (I want a Pharple), I certainly can't think of 50 issues with CH. Of course not including things we have already been told no to, i.e. Medium or Heavy armor again.
Oh yeah, I am very disapointed in not a single Dev post in our forum. If I remember correctly even during the "rebalance" they didn't post here, they posted in the discussion forum, and our correspondent linked us to it.
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