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Starmage

Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:46 pm

#1

The XP requirements for CH have been raised.

Novice Ch- 65k ch xp

1st Tier-150k ch xp

2nd Tier-250k ch xp

3rd Tier-350k ch xp

4th Tier-450k ch xp

Master-1million ch xp

XP gains from training and attacking with a pet.

lvl 7 vynock Baby:

Initial tame- 411 ch xp

commands- 400 ch xp

cl12 pet vs cl14 mob- 0 xp (bug)

cl12 pet vs cl23 mob 0 xp (bug)

All I can say is thank God I am already a MCH. Make of this what you will.

Journey Ominorei MCH/Mpistoleer TC-Prime

PS. GPS are now aggro mobs.

PPS. Gurrecks are now aggro mobs too.

Message Edited by Starmage on 04-16-2005 01:17 AM

neinnunb

Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:56 pm

#2

>> cl12 pet vs cl14 mob- 0 xp
>> cl12 pet vs cl23 mob 0 xp

Well definately a bug there, so we cant really say much about the XP until we can see the rates. Im going to take a wild guess that they will be more or less the same for most professions... around 1.5k to 2.5k XP per kill depending on mob level against yours. Now the question is if the XP will be divided (like it does with weapon and med xp) if you use your own weapons to help your pet.

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Meuw

Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:47 am

#3

Starmage wrote:

The XP requirements for CH have been raised.

Novice Ch- 65k ch xp

1st Tier-150k ch xp

2nd Tier-250k ch xp

3rd Tier-350k ch xp

4th Tier-450k ch xp

Master-1million ch xp

XP gains from training and attacking with a pet.

lvl 7 vynock Baby:

Initial tame- 411 ch xp

commands- 400 ch xp

cl12 pet vs cl14 mob- 0 xp (bug)

cl12 pet vs cl23 mob 0 xp (bug)

All I can say is thank God I am already a MCH. Make of this what you will.

Journey Ominorei MCH/Mpistoleer TC-Prime

PS. GPS are now aggro mobs.

PPS. Gurrecks are now aggro mobs too.

Message Edited by Starmage on 04-16-2005 01:17 AM

I am going to postulate that these requirements are to reflect the increased viability of CH in combat. I have said it to the Devs and their footmen before....I would gladly use ALL my points to be useful again. Were I not MCH already I would STILL gladly pay these xp points to be where I am.

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Falkanos

Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:40 am

#4

man Im really going to be dragging up this ladder. I love the skill but I'm 1/1/1/1 and dont get a lot of time now its really going to burn to master.

Oh well keep on burn'n

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Bacris

Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:07 am

#5

Considering on TC you get 400 xp for a level 7 creature, whereas currently on Live, I get around 110-130 xp for a level 25-45 creature command train, that's a sizable increase in XP gained. The increase in XP for skills would make sense if they increased the XP gained for taming and training.

theorb22

Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:23 am

#6

Good grief, and I thought the 2 months it took me to master by using 2 pets for more XP, no nerfed level curve, and no generally nerfed XP were harsh....

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Vertexon

Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:41 pm

#7

If both XP requirements and XP gains are higher, is progression actually slower? And haven't GPS always been aggro?

-Vertexon.

MechaWashu

Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:17 pm

#8

Vertexon wrote:

And haven't GPS always been aggro?

GSP are now agro (got one today on TC EP3)

Maybe thats what they mean

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Nell2ThaIzzay

Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:57 pm

#9

Wow, I guess I better get to grinding as much as possible before this goes live.

And Vert... I'm not a math wiz, so I don't know what the ratio is pre-CU comparted to post-CU, but increased XP gain for increased XP requirements could still take longer, if the post-CU nerf is a larger ratio of XP gained per XP needed than it was pre-CU.

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MechaWashu

Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:07 pm

#10

Nell2ThaIzzay wrote:

Wow, I guess I better get to grinding as much as possible before this goes live.

And Vert... I'm not a math wiz, so I don't know what the ratio is pre-CU comparted to post-CU, but increased XP gain for increased XP requirements could still take longer, if the post-CU nerf is a larger ratio of XP gained per XP needed than it was pre-CU.

ya, but by the same token, it could easily take a shorter amount of time.

There's realy no way of knowing, so all this doom-saying is pointless and silly.

**EDIT**

Ratio's aside, the new XP requirement are less or the same as XP requirement for the "regluar" combat profs. And from whats been posted on the patch notes creaure XP should be aquired closer to the same rate as said profs.

Not to mention that as of now XP for taming training a level 7 creature has been multiplied by 4. And form what I understand this is scaled by the creatures level.

Message Edited by MechaWashu on 04-16-2005 09:20 PM

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Meuw

Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:46 pm

#11

The million for master alone is a million more than right now. So of course it is higher, and as I have said over and over if they match abilities with the requirements I have no problem dealing with it. even if I had to gain that xp.

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Recently tamed my first Bothan Bola Carbine(this pet actually works)
Bria-Meuw-retired MCH, MCM, MBH
Bria-Mackarel Joe-MAS, MT, MA

JonBlack13

Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:55 pm

#12

ok when atm the training and taming of a vynock at novice CH level is about 400 out of 17500, that means it takes about 44 of them to gain one skill thats in live. Now we take the 1600 xp out of 150k it takes about 94 tames. This is an outrage because it is 10 MORE than double the current rate. Now consider doing creature handler at those rates

. And thats only at novice creature handler. This is one stupid increase of xp required. I'm afraid thisWILL kill off many of the new creature handlers that are not completely dedicated to becoming master. Get ready, our numbers are about to be cut big time and I wouldn't expect many new creature handlers made from noobies Post-CU. It'll scare off to-be CH noobs.This is one sad day for CHs everywhere

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Message Edited by JonBlack13 on 04-16-2005 06:55 PM

Message Edited by JonBlack13 on 04-16-2005 06:57 PM

Starmage

Sat Apr 16, 2005 7:10 pm

#13

Vertexon wrote:

If both XP requirements and XP gains are higher, is progression actually slower? And haven't GPS always been aggro?

GPS and Gurrecks were always non-aggro...ie. yellow on the overhead map. Many other changes not just to CH.....corellian swoops are now yellow and non-aggro except when faction goes against you.

The other change to GPS is the lowering of their cl, they are back to cl23 so 3 out at once is again possible =)

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