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Thread: Vigerous Health Vs. Beastly Consintration

Ayami-Ayami
Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:45 pm
#1

i am working a tanking pet - a shear mite soilder, pre-21 - and i am having a hard time deciding on what to give it.

i know i want it to have L3 of Thick Skin and Agression, but i cant decide weather to give her Vigerous Health L2 or Beastly Consintration L2. they both seem useful, but i'm not sure which will make for a better tank



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DancinMonkey
Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:54 pm
#2

hmm..i'd like to know the same thing



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Svoko-Riola
Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:31 pm
#3

Why dont you just give it Thick Skin L2, Aggresion L2, Beastly Constitution L2, Vigorous Health L2. Vigorous Health and Beastly Constitution kind of go hand in hand together. If yourpethas high regen, it doesnt matter if the pet doesnt have a lot of health to tank with. If your has high health, it isnt going to be a good tank if it cant regain it before the next enemy.



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Ayami-Ayami
Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:03 pm
#4

well i think i want my tank to have agression L3, she needs to be able to hold aggro while i deal damage.
and once thick skin is fixed i'll proboly want to have her with L3 of it to have the best protection.

i am leaning towards beastly consintration, seems more useful, VH L2 will only add 600-100 health, its still not working so i dont know for sure how much L2 would add over L1.
even if L2 added twice that of L1 that would be about 1000, but i doubt it'll be that much.

and with a hgih regen not only will the pet be able to recover quick, it'll regen during battle too, might end up adding more to its damage-taking power then a extraraw 1k health



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Ayami - MCH since september '03 and until NGE.
The removal of CH and the NGE in general is the dumbest thing a company has ever done. period.
CH deserves to stay, and SOE deserves to be *#&$^#*@ until they are #*&$& and then *#&$ some more!
LONG LIVE THE CREATURE HANDLERS!!!

- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
DaBudo2
Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:04 pm
#5

There are a couple of unknowns here. Do we know how much faster health regens withBeastly Constitution versus how much health is improved with Vigorous Health? And do we know for a fact what "improved health" actually means? I assume it means more hit points? But maybe it just means the pet is less likely to catch colds


Unless you know the particulars, it'll be tough comparing the two abilities. So, if you don't want to give your pet both abilities, flipping a coin might be as good a way as any to decide which to choose





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Ayami-Ayami
Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:07 pm
#6

i was also wondering if there are any numbers on beastly Con.
like has any one figured how many more hit points a pet with it regens each tick?



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Ayami - MCH since september '03 and until NGE.
The removal of CH and the NGE in general is the dumbest thing a company has ever done. period.
CH deserves to stay, and SOE deserves to be *#&$^#*@ until they are #*&$& and then *#&$ some more!
LONG LIVE THE CREATURE HANDLERS!!!

- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
Seiryuu
Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:12 pm
#7

Vigorous Health adds:
L1 = Health * 1.04 + 100
L2 = Health * 1.08 + 250
L3 = Health * 1.12 + 500

These do not stack. Whatever maximum level you have is the bonus the pet gets.

I don't know exactly what bonuses Beastly Constitution gives, but the difference in regen rate seemed noticable to me. Combat might slow it enough to not matter, but out of combat it is nice for quick recovery.



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Ayami-Ayami
Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:15 pm
#8

thanks for the numbers, i didnt know you had gotten the numbers on L2 and 3.
so L2 VH on my shear mite would add 800 HP, hmmm
thats a tough choice...



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Ayami - MCH since september '03 and until NGE.
The removal of CH and the NGE in general is the dumbest thing a company has ever done. period.
CH deserves to stay, and SOE deserves to be *#&$^#*@ until they are #*&$& and then *#&$ some more!
LONG LIVE THE CREATURE HANDLERS!!!

- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
Ayami-Ayami
Mon Aug 22, 2005 7:41 pm
#9

oh, one more thing about BC, has anyone compared the regen increase on different levels of pets? i might be wrong but my CL 70 mite seems to have much faster regen then my lower level pets, and if the BC bonus works with a hard number, rather then a %, it might not add much to the mites, seemingly, high regen.



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Ayami - MCH since september '03 and until NGE.
The removal of CH and the NGE in general is the dumbest thing a company has ever done. period.
CH deserves to stay, and SOE deserves to be *#&$^#*@ until they are #*&$& and then *#&$ some more!
LONG LIVE THE CREATURE HANDLERS!!!

- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
Skadoink
Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:14 am
#10

Well, surely a way to settle this would be to have some one on one fights....


Two CH's tame the same base creature. One trains with Vigorous Health, the other with Beastly Constitution (/thrupp notice the spelling!) do a few head to heads and note the results. Try the same at Lvl1, 2 and 3, as the results may differ.


Anyone on Infinity? - I'd be able to try this out tonight, but would need another CH...






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Ultron69
Tue Aug 23, 2005 4:20 am
#11

You would be better off catching a new Shear Mite Soildier(70).I caught mine with the innate ability ThickSkin L3.Then you could put Vigorous Health L3 and Beastly Constitution L3 if you wanted too.
Ayami-Ayami
Tue Aug 23, 2005 11:00 am
#12

i considered taming a new one, but i have already leveled this one 7 times and i am rather attached to her

thanks for all the imput, i think i'm gonna teach her beastly Con., seems like it'll be more effective, since i cant give her both BC and VH.



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Ayami - MCH since september '03 and until NGE.
The removal of CH and the NGE in general is the dumbest thing a company has ever done. period.
CH deserves to stay, and SOE deserves to be *#&$^#*@ until they are #*&$& and then *#&$ some more!
LONG LIVE THE CREATURE HANDLERS!!!

- I support a rollback and keeping & balancing the old combat system.
...and making SWG a better place to be.
Your voice counts!
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