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Thread: NO Wonder!!!!!

Laaba
Mon May 02, 2005 7:03 am
#1


I am seeing so many MCH with lvl 50 pets out. LOL of course I assume these are old BE pets. I have 2 lvl 50 BE pets that still have over 10k health an hit for 587-600 [these pets did not need to be converted]. I converted a lvl 57 that now has5861 health, had 11k +an now hits for 87-361 from 480-490. Poor lvl 57 pet that I loved so much will never be taken out again, it is trash now. My other 4 BE pets that had 13 to 14k ham an hit for about 700 max I am afraid to touch. LOL a old lvl 9 BE pet I had when taken out has 7400 health an shows as lvl 1. VERY COOL my new lvl 1 pet now has more health than my lvl 57 converted pet.


I am just in AWE that Sony screwed over all there veteran player's like they did in this CU. Double Exp week so cool. I have been playing close to 2 years an am maxed out on exp with my alt. Lets see ... 0x2 still = 0 exp for me.


I really hope the rest of you have better luck than me in pet conversion an can as "OLD" vet players can find something good to say about this CU without any Negative in your playing experience.





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Joker9125
Mon May 02, 2005 10:05 am
#2

Yea we got screwed pretty bad with this conversion.



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dcbobo
Mon May 02, 2005 10:30 am
#3


I'm confused, i was never much on BE pets, I have afew, they converted well. Are you saying that you have two lvl 50 pets with over 10k health and hit for 587-600 that you can actually pull out? If so, you'd be crazy to complain about the CU.



And your lvl 57 seems like a decent pet. I think you guys are confused about pets, drastically. OK, yes pets dmg and health have been reduced. But they had to be, all creatures in the wild have been reduced. What does it matter if your pet that was over 10k has been reduced to 5.8 k if the mob you're fighting has been reduced as well to match it?

lycanthropy
Mon May 02, 2005 1:02 pm
#4

this pet conversion isnt as bad as people are making it seem, all the creatures do seem to have lower heath, but its not as easy to take them down as it once was either. everything seems in chaos as far as the tamed pets go, but im having faith that they are working to correct it.


and on a side note, just because you escaped the pet conversion currently doesnt mean it wont suddenly show up and make you choose, cause i too had a really nice BE graul, then several days later it decided to ask me to convert it.



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Laaba
Mon May 02, 2005 1:25 pm
#5


Yes I understand. When CU first came out almost all my BE pets needed to be converted. But then it changed an any BE pets I had that were lvl 50 an below did not need to be converted. And YES I have 2 BE pets lvl 50 that I can take out that still have there old stats of 10k plus health [ham] an hit for about 600. YES this is great.... but my other GOOD BE pets that I had spend a half mill on I am afraid to convert after converting a lvl 57. The conversion says something to the effect of your pet has been coverted to AVERAGE stats for the lvl. MY GOOD PETS were anything but AVERAGE. My old favorite pet Thor a gurrcat with over 13k ham across the board an hit for 700 max is now going to be a average lvl 68 pet when converted.


Oh an pets tend to wander again. I was out looking for a Queen Spider an was using one of the BE pets that hits for 600 an after I had him attack an waited a few minutes he started just wondering around... thus soon as I had it kill something I immediatly told it to follow.


What some people that are posting positive here are missing is this patch really screwed over the VETERANS in all trades. It is bad enough I have lost my good unique pets that cost a half mill or so .... but I have well over 100 mill credits so that is a drop in the bucket in some ways... however if I had spent a 100 mill on a legandary weapon an it was now reduced to a average weapon I would be really upset.


For new people to the game an those just coming in I can understand why YOU think this CU is not so bad. But I assure everyone of you that if you had been playing for close to 2 years an had REALLY developed your character you would not be so positive.










The BEST 3 pet names I have ever seen are.... DearSOE PleezFix DaBugz
ArchiieBarrett
Mon May 02, 2005 1:36 pm
#6






Laaba wrote:


Yes I understand. When CU first came out almost all my BE pets needed to be converted. But then it changed an any BE pets I had that were lvl 50 an below did not need to be converted. And YES I have 2 BE pets lvl 50 that I can take out that still have there old stats of 10k plus health [ham] an hit for about 600. YES this is great.... but my other GOOD BE pets that I had spend a half mill on I am afraid to convert after converting a lvl 57. The conversion says something to the effect of your pet has been coverted to AVERAGE stats for the lvl. MY GOOD PETS were anything but AVERAGE. My old favorite pet Thor a gurrcat with over 13k ham across the board an hit for 700 max is now going to be a average lvl 68 pet when converted.


Oh an pets tend to wander again. I was out looking for a Queen Spider an was using one of the BE pets that hits for 600 an after I had him attack an waited a few minutes he started just wondering around... thus soon as I had it kill something I immediatly told it to follow.


What some people that are posting positive here are missing is this patch really screwed over the VETERANS in all trades. It is bad enough I have lost my good unique pets that cost a half mill or so .... but I have well over 100 mill credits so that is a drop in the bucket in some ways... however if I had spent a 100 mill on a legandary weapon an it was now reduced to a average weapon I would be really upset.


For new people to the game an those just coming in I can understand why YOU think this CU is not so bad. But I assure everyone of you that if you had been playing for close to 2 years an had REALLY developed your character you would not be so positive.













I agree 100%. Alot of people do not understand how CH worked then. Yes there are new startagies now, but I loved having my pets tank and be able ot use them for each ocasion like oh look a commando (in pvp) Ill whip out my roba with high heat protection and use its intimidation and poison to mess up my foe while he struggles shooting it with his flamer I can sneak some hits in for the win. That was fun. Now my pets just kinda fight beside me... boring /yawn the mobs run stright for me and no pet is IMPRESSIVE to look at anymore. the only thing that is impressive is maybe the skin but there are so many similar skins I loved looking at my frenzied gruals stats and saying wow or my BE pets that where as powerful as a level 50 pet but only level 35 with light armor and my shosen specials that a BE stressed weeks over to get the perfect DNA. Alot of my stuff in my inventory and my house is useless. I am a Swordsman and I have about 10 sets of like uber uber uber Comp armor that I spent millions on and everyone knows being a CH makes getting money as hard as landing a triple back flip.


look what I am saying here is now yes my developed character and my old memorys and uniqque pets are now just simple screen shots on my computers.





Archiie Barrett
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Retired Oldschool Master Heavy Swordsman


Now..
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dcbobo
Mon May 02, 2005 2:31 pm
#7

Um, the old BE pets, that people have that aren't able to convert are the exploit pets. Lots have people never sent in the /bug or ticket to get them replaced. I can't remember its been so long, but I think if they catch you using them you can be suspended for not reporting. I'm not exactly sure what kinda pets, when they were made or all that. Can you take out to lvl 50 pets with over 10k each on them at the same time, if so, then yah, you are using exploit pets. Iunderstand your feelings, but i'm not exactly sure if i'm a veteran or not, I prolly quit swg before you even started I was here when it released I've taken some long breaks too....


But CU has completely changed the way we play the game and naturally the way we'll view it. I can't say what it will be like in a few months, but it may that the collections of the past are now replaced with new kinds of collections.... I really don't know, it's to early to tell. I do know it's not gonna be business as usual in SWG for atleast a month. For anyone....


And yah, weapons/item collectors really got screwed over at first impression. I can't imagine having invested millions into the things like that and now be worthless. But again, this early, we aren't even sure what's worthless and what's uber. I'm seeing weapons for 5k on vedors that are really sweet with CU's new system, and others for 100k that look pretty standard....


I had a 61 rancor a BE made, nothing special, but it was a pretty good pet. I converted it's stats, and it's still a good lvl 61 pet. But now, lvl 61 isn't really that impressive considering what we can get now. I bet thor will be a really good pet. You can't go by, his old stats of being 13k and converted to 7k. That is normal, it's not making him weaker. Let me give you example, what if you logged on and the CU converted pets by doubling it's ham, lets say thor went to 26k health. BUT, the mobs you fought against were tripled. That would be an example of making yor pet weaker. I tihnk that is what most people are not getting. The health has been made relative to the new system, not weaker....

ArchiieBarrett
Mon May 02, 2005 2:36 pm
#8

exploits? you mean my level 1(0) pet? Good let them find me using him, I had him forever and he is by far my oldest pet a guildie in my first guild made for me. I havnt gotten cought yet, and If i Do and get suspened, hahahaha /cancel account....



Archiie Barrett
Dedicated Oldschool Master Creature Handeler
Retired Oldschool Master Heavy Swordsman


Now..
MCH MPistoleer
BH 1-0-4-3

(My Mount Guide) http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=creature_handler&message.id=252580
dcbobo
Mon May 02, 2005 2:41 pm
#9

no, that wasn't the ones I was referring to, but yah, they are too. To each his own I guess...
Laaba
Mon May 02, 2005 2:52 pm
#10

On the old 1 (0) pets I have seen someone with one [it did not convert auto an there is no option to do so], however when taken out an targeted it showed it was lvl 55. In a way like my lvl 9 BE pet with 7400 health when taken out it an targeted it shows lvl 1, only in reverse of course.


On your comments about Thor in 2 posts up... The conversion even as you explain it, I am not saying you are wrong... but Thor ends up being less of a pet by a lot than my lvl 50 non converted BE pets. Thor was NOT a AVERAGE pet why after playing just under 2 years is he going to be converted to a average pet of his lvl?






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dcbobo
Mon May 02, 2005 3:01 pm
#11


Laaba, I'm saying, a lvl 50 pet with over 12k health should have been converted, you can't compare a converted pet to those. Thor isn't going to be average by any means. The average you're talking about is the way the conversion gets it defense to BE converted pets. he won't be an "average"pet.
lycanthropy
Mon May 02, 2005 3:04 pm
#12



i have been involved with the CH profession sense a few months after i installed SWG for the first time, i did however miss the uber days as they call it where all pets were extremely powerful. I got into it when they were on the downside of things, so i know how things were, and when compared to pre-CU, i still think the CU is a step fowards.


so i am looking at this from a veteran perspective, and my positive opinion is based on past and present experiences.

Message Edited by lycanthropy on 05-02-2005 03:05 PM

Message Edited by lycanthropy on 05-02-2005 03:06 PM



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Laaba
Mon May 02, 2005 3:15 pm
#13


Laaba, I'm saying, a lvl 50 pet with over 12k health should have been converted, you can't compare a converted pet to those. Thor isn't going to be average by any means. The average you're talking about is the way the conversion gets it defense to BE converted pets. he won't be an "average"pet.


dcbobo -


First of all the lvl 50 pets have over 10k health. When I convert a lvl 57 pet that use to hit for 480-490 an now hits for 87 - 361 an when converting I get the message something to the effect that your pets stats have been convertedto the "average" of a pet at this lvl. What does that mean? To me it means my pet has been reduces to what the DEV's now consider average stats for that lvl. Now perhaps if it had come out 330 - 361 I would not be as upset with the conversion. But it has been made a AVERAGE pet for its lvl.


Would you be willing to give me a half mill credits for the converted pet? NO you are going to say you are ****** crazy. Call me CRAZY if you like but I am not a FOOL.


And I agree by all rights the lvl 50 BE pets are over powered and should have been converted. I am very lucky to have them. That is NOT the point.



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