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Thread: Hey ko maybe you can suggest something

jopenack
Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:44 am
#1

There was a rumor tiggs was on shadofire, she stated she may create a toon on any given server and surprise people, I asked her to join me and let me show her the profession..


Sitting back and reflecting on this a while...........


I know devs have toons they supposedly play with and they work on TC and such. But lets face facts in many area's in any given professionthey are out of touch. They are not only out of touch with alot of professions they are out of touch with players, it's part of what suaully starts the explosive mutiny in a forum.


Sure they are busy we all know that. I would rather have work delayed a few days than have workmake it to live that has a detrimental effect rather than a positive one as originally thought.


That being said


Suggestion one;


Have Dev/Cor/Player day

= have thesethree people go out on a pre-set3 day trip and play the profession. learning how we do things what works what doesn't, day one the 3 people could be nov's and work up a little to gain some boxes and experience the grind, day two all masters experiencing the full templated experience, for ch an example may be to see how long it takes for all 3 people to gain a level 2 skill, on the 3rd day you could take on some higher content. I think it is a nice idea to have 3 days dedicated for the devs to associate with players and get a consistent understanding of day to day game play here.


This could be done every 3-6 months with a new player chosen each time. the player could be chosen at random so the dev could meet either a happy camper or a no nonsense person, or even joe negative lol.

You may think having joe mnegative there is bad but it's not, playing together might start building a bond with both sides and giving a new apreciation of eachothers views.


Suggestion two;


Continues where I left off, On a bi-weekly schedual have the dev's post in the forums, Not giving out information or making promises just stuff like, "Hi I'm so and so nice to meet you all" "So your the ch's who yell at me all the time lol"... just popping into a particualr forum to shoot the breeze. And sure give an occasional "Nice idea", or 'Good concept I would love that too", "yea we know, it's about all I can say though"

this is all people really want. It is to know that they look and read occasionally. While some might say it's the cor's job, it is not the cor's job to build community relations with the dev's and this would.


Afundemental problem with the forums results from communication, it's been hashed over by the community and the dev's have said they are aware of it many times over. Building a sense of respect, possibly friendships lol. and bonding with the community is the problem, the lack of communication has created this problem. It became a very bad cycle through the years after promises were not kept and the dev's got the word "silence" from above. i have been here long enough to know this to be true. Remembering what it was like when swg was beta and the communication and general atmosphere with many a community member and devs it was a happier place with much discussed and a respect being forged with many people. Thats why some dev's leaving created a stir among players. We respected them from the old days and felt they're loss. I would like to see that return.


Anyways nothing really new here but considering some of the eruptions that happen in all forums at any given moment it might be a start to improving community relations, customer service and promoting a sense of forward motion. If you could pass this along Ko I would appreciate it


Thank You





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TEMPEST MTK/MD - WANDERHOME MT/MM -???-???

"Creature Handlers are not 1% of the population, they are over the 50% mark, the 1% excuse is a flat out lie"
NyghtsSecond
Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:09 am
#2

These are great ideas Jop. Sure wish it would happen.


Any saleman knows though, you have to get to the decision maker. And I see this as a big part of the problem. They have like three producers and then separate designers for each little part of a project. As Blixtev pointed out, the developers are just the ones plumbing toilets in the living room, and they seem to know they are toilets. It seems the game is designed by committee now.


Back in the beginning the game had a vision. Love it or hate it, Raph Koster's view drove the game to what it became. And Raph always was open to discussions, going back to the days of UO. Thats is a big part of why Beta and the early game was so open to collaboration.


Even if a strong central lead designer were to reappear, I not sure he could wrestle control of the game from so many corporate fingers now grasping onto it.


I suppose we can hope for something better. There is always hope, however slight.



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jopenack
Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:13 am
#3

Yea I hear ya Nyghts


I also read that post from Blixtev, thats another reason why I wrote this, his little post of sincerity goes far lol.


Hope springs eternal as they say.





SHADOWFIRE - MASTER CREATURE HANDLER / MASTER RIFLEMAN

TEMPEST MTK/MD - WANDERHOME MT/MM -???-???

"Creature Handlers are not 1% of the population, they are over the 50% mark, the 1% excuse is a flat out lie"
Darkcrest
Sun Oct 23, 2005 6:17 am
#4

I totally agree with this I think the devs and maybe some of the higher ups should do the same I feel one day hanging out with power players, the next medium and lastly the casual player would benefit them alot. especially playingwith the same stuff we have not prearranged items like on test center frogs & playing on our level would probably open their eyes a bit. ( at least to how much grinding we have to do just to do anything ) secondly the chatting with us would be nice too I feel the lack of communication from the devs or dev leader is what hurts this game most they never really ask for our input but thrust things on us at times which causes alot of the uproar with any proffession.


Unfortunantly because of the lack of communication there is alot of speculation on whats happening and speculation tends to get out of control even to the point of everyone claiming "dang SOE is screwing us again!" instead of this if they were to tell us more of why they are doing things the way they are and what it will lead to eventually it would build a better trust with us the player base. and with the trust built up you wouldnt have crud like the "Vote of no confidence" that is currently making its way in the other forums.


but being in this game as long as I have I dont think this will happen nor even be read by anyone but the corrospondants which is unfortuante to say the least





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jopenack
Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:11 am
#5

Speculation has been the cause of many disturbances, it's unfortunate that that type of atmoshpere is preferred here. I actually have a hard time believing anyone or company would want to promote such things as goes on here, hence my thread lol.


But in my heart I know the truth. It's just mind boggling





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TEMPEST MTK/MD - WANDERHOME MT/MM -???-???

"Creature Handlers are not 1% of the population, they are over the 50% mark, the 1% excuse is a flat out lie"
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