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Thread: Pet PvP and PvE damage test results

Joker9125
Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:19 pm
#1












OkI did some PvP anround cnet against some unarmored people then moved on to some yard trash with no resists and recorded the damage my pets were doing. Here are the results


Jinx vs. Pistoleer

Min-Max damage 410-420


Damage done to pistoleer with pistol equipped

416

419

240


Average

358.333333333

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

179


Me (rifleman) vs Giant Peko Peko (I about died with i saw it! I want one!!)

Min-Max damage 210-220


damage done to me without rifle equipped

214

156

138


Average

169.33333333333

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

76


with rifle equipped

192

164

156


Average

170.6666666666666

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

36



Me vs Graul Mauler (not fully grown)

Min-Max damage 186-204


damage done to me with a rifle equipped

110

195

146


Average

150.3333333333

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

85



For this next part I got my pet buffed by a doc to see if it woulod make any difference. It didnt.


Sam (buffed)vs Fencer

Min-Max damage 170-180


damage done to fencer unarmed

102

106

102

120

106


Average

107.2

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

18


Sam (buffed) vs Meatlump

142

156


Average

149

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

14


Sam (buffed) vs Corillian butterfly

107

128

163

124


Average

130.5

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

56



Sam (unbuffed) vs. Gubbur

171

100


Average

135.5

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

71


Sam (unbuffed) vs. Durni

120

103
162


Average

128.33333333333333

Difference between highest and lowest damage.

59


This simply can not be "working as intended"

Message Edited by Joker9125 on 12-27-2004 08:24 PM



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theorb22
Mon Dec 27, 2004 9:44 pm
#2

While i'll admit the numbers against creatures with no kinetic resists is worriesome, the pvp indications do show far more damage than they would of done before. Against armored buffed people sure they still won't do much, but take those hits on the fencer down to 25 or so per hit and then you'll see the difference, I know i sure did when I dueled an unarmored buffed person with my best pets :/.


I've done a bit of practical appication in the field with it, It's still nowhere close to balanced or fair for us, but in casual dueling its a big boost alright.





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Joker9125
Mon Dec 27, 2004 10:23 pm
#3


I was more refferign to the fact that the pets are doing nowhere NEAR the damage they should be. with the 2.5 damage multiplier from having a rifle equipped I should have been taking 525 damage from the peko pekoat least.



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enigma_writer
Tue Dec 28, 2004 2:20 am
#4

In pvp attack specials are key


Bull Rancor and Screecher are the best because of their plague strike specials. As jedi have won duels as my screecher or now Bull Rancor stack disease on them.


With bull rancor hit from 200 to 700 per tick and can hit any stat. If it hits mind and the bh doesnt have any friends I have won every time.


I have never done tests based on how pets hit but found your results very interesting. Since pvp mostly involves armor its why the plague strike is so important as even the buffs to help against disease only reduce the dmg not prevent it.


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theorb22
Tue Dec 28, 2004 9:20 am
#5

I've never heard of any multipliers to pet damage for any proffesion, sure would be nice though :/. But not everyone can get a bull rancor to get through armor....





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BrerLapin
Tue Dec 28, 2004 1:38 pm
#6

Rifleman no longer tkes the melee damage multiplier (mainly because the devs lacked the foresight to include the base movement speed of 10m a second for players).

More interested in the actual end result?

So are pets doing full damage in PvP then ?



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Joker9125
Tue Dec 28, 2004 2:47 pm
#7

Ok so the damage multiplier not applying anymore explains that but I still dont understand why pet damage is so random. Jinx's damage should never have been below 410 period. Because thats her minimum damage and the difference between the highest and lowest damage should never have been more than 10 but at we can see it was 179. This both intrigues and bothers me. Is this a bug? Or is there more to pet damage than what shows in your datapad?



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theorb22
Tue Dec 28, 2004 3:27 pm
#8

That low pve damage is troublesome.....i've always thought they did the damage it listed. Seems sort of silly for it to do less, unless silliness is working as intended heh....





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Joker9125
Wed Dec 29, 2004 3:11 am
#9






theorb22 wrote:

That low pve damage is troublesome.....i've always thought they did the damage it listed. Seems sort of silly for it to do less, unless silliness is working as intended heh....






In SWG that is the only that that has ever worked "as intended"



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theorb22
Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:57 am
#10

Well if silliness is working as intended......then why can't we tame pharples? I mean those things are silly





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