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With CH being one of the predominantly rare profession choices outside of grinding the spotlight for bugs/exploits has been drawn away from it. My alt was master CH for a very long time. Despite my love for taming and being able to have the more vicious animals of the galaxy follow me around as pets I chose to drop the profession in order to use the skill points more usefully (lets face it...CH isnt the money making powerhouse it used to be). However...before doing so i released all of the animals i had stored and proceeded to track down creatures under the level 10 non-CH limit. In the end i had al datapad FULL of non-CH wild pets to call when i dropped the profession. Now, I know the Merchants have been crying for a nerf to everyone who does the same thing in thier profession and was wondering if this would be akin to thier headaches. How does the CH community view this?

Hmmm, interesting question. I'm only vaguely familiar with the objections the Merchants have voiced so can't speak to that. As for CH, though, I do think it would be taking unfair advantage. My thinking is that if you're going to drop a profession, you should lose all benefits/abilities that profession gives you as well. As a non-CH,a person is allowed 2 non-CH pets. Anything more than that is a benefit/ability that should be reserved solely for CH. If only merchants are allowed to have/use vendors then only merchants should have/use vendors. Seems that simple to me. If you don't have the profession, you can't use the profession.

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Pickaroon - MCH, Master Pistoleer, Elder Geek
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As a non-issue that would cause most ex-ch's to just quit. While I agree with the Merchant/Vendor thing, You are a very rare exception. What do you plan to do with all those level 10 pets? Use and rotate them? Not very practical unless they are Uber BE creations. Even then, how is this different than keeping a ton of BE deeds? Ok, you do not have to get them trained and wait for them to grow. You going to sell them? lol I can have 5 level 19 droids that would go through all 22 of the things. When was the last time you saw a non-ch use a pet in combat? Most are pretty useless. Let the ex-CH keep their pets. This is neither an exploit or an issue. Unless you happen to have six vendors in your shop and zero Merchant abilities. lol Let me guess FOTM combat and FOTM crafting looking for a justification to keep them? lol You will not find alot of support here.

I have a thought. Make it so you can keep you vendors and they are useless. You, also will not be able to buy or sell anything because your are over your limit. Yeah, that would make it like a CH giving up skills and keeping the "benefits." Ok, you could sell things but not for more than 1k.

Oh, by the way, I have a character on Ahazi. Any chance we can meet up and I can see those 22 level 10 pets?

Never did say what your crafting profession was.... Let me guess, no that would be rude. I assume you are not a Master Merchant.

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STEMMlin wrote:

this characters professions are in the sig, my alts however consist of 0 crafting profs. and the post you dug out of obscurity was a joke at the time. there were several threads created by new players asking how to get rich quick, without doing much of anything. so in a moment of humor i typed that one up. only one person was fool enough to take the bait tho. Why are my professions of importance again? and why are you taking this off topic? the question posed to everyone was whether or not this was outrageous enough to warrant a backlash akin to the merchants.

*shakes her head* No, you just did the smart thing and got usable pets before dropping the class. There's nothing wrong with that. The only negative side effect, and this is completely on how you view it, is the possibility that something you released could someday be extinct and you might be kicking yourself. But we go through that every day.

Master Tailor, Master Doctor,

I did not see Master Merchant. Why are you posting here? We have no problem with ex-CH keeping their pets. You pet list tells me that you did not spend much time as a CH. You have to understand that the CH's still around have been around for a long time. You may get a newb or two excited but that is about it. We give advice to people that give up CH on what to keep. lol Wrong forum. Go get Merchant skills. You really had to dig deep to find a profession that has some rudimentary skills when you give it up. You know, I used to be Master Pistoleer and I sitll have a bunch of pistols I can carry around. I used to be Master Carbineer, I used to be Master Weaponsmith.... I can sell you a crate of prenerf FWG5's that I made. I used to be a... Well, I have had 12 other professions besides MCH, including Merchant; So, I understand what you are trying to do. I am a MCH/MTKA on this character. I am a MTKA/MD on my other and working on another TKA/CH on my third. I do not have a horse in this race. I do resent what you are trying to do. You want merchant skills without keeping the profession. You want to raise hell so that the CH can no longer keep pets if they give up skills. It does not seem you have our best interests at heart only your own.

Oh, one other thing, an ex-MCH can not call and fight with a level 70 BE pet. An ex-Master Merchant can now do the equivalant of that.. You want to sell your Stims, Buff packs, and clothes figure out what you want to give up. You have around 170 messages In the Ahasi forum and about 150 of them dealt with exploits. I just did not want to quote them all.

Severan T'iam (Valcyn) RIP 7/2/2003-5/8/2005.
Master Nerf herder (oops I mean CH oops CH is gone but never forgotten)
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Well, as i stated in my first post, i kept these critters because i loved the taming aspect of CH and the variety of the pets. They are NOT uber/bugged BE pets. They are NOT practical by any means, i just enjoy being able to rotate them as i mingle in cities. I'm not FOTM anything. Ive been playing the same classes (with the exception of CH....i traded it for TKA) for almost a year. But you did catch me in one lie......my datapad isnt totally full. The thought came into my head as i was dropping the skills. So i really only have 14. But if you MUST know what what they are (as your non-hostile second post requested) i will list them for you.

a female squall

a mott

a bageraset

a grassland slice hound

a murra

a rill

a dwarf nuna

a veermok sentry

a krhabu (spelling is probably off)

a minor guf drolg

a horned rasp

an agrilat rasp

a vynock (or flynock....cant remember)

and lastly a little ikopi-looking thing with handle-bar horns from corellia

*shrugs* I know it doesn't bother me any. I never really understood necessarily WHY we had to have limits, other than for data space on the servers. Actually, I'd say good work on having a good selection to work with.

so, with the excpetion of mrhawat (who seems to be COMPLETELY missing the point of this post BTW) the concensus is that CHs dont really care, because unlike a merchant, being able to use 22 low level pets doesnt make much of a difference to your new professions.

Mrhawat, the title of this topic is a question. The other posters who read and posted here understood this and answered as such. Why you felt this thread was trying to incite a flame war or "stir up" anything is beyond me. I also dont know what you benefit from saying the majority of my posts are about exploits. Everyone else has the same forum functions you do, and can check all my old posts and see that you are 99% incorrect in that assumption.