Creature Handler Archive
Thread: What do you all think???
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Silvarran
Thu Mar 24, 2005 5:50 pm
#1
I am in no way a CH expert but did play it for quite awhile in the past and have a MBH/CH player currently. In the BH forum there was a question about MBH+MCH and I posted the following, but as I said I am not in anyway close to being a CH expert so I thought I would post my response here to see what the loyal CH crowd thought about whatI said and hopefully I was pretty close 
Understand that all the negative comments about CH may be true now and not so after the CU. Its hard to know right now. It was stated the CH is supposed to be a Combat profession. If nothing else after the CU, not being able to spam specials will slow everyone one down. Jedi and everyone else cut through thing because they spam special after special for a large amount of damage. Just losing that ability alone is helpful for CH. Will CH ever be helpful for MBH? I would say yes if they get the pet specials to work right. Consider this after the CU
MBH/ranged is better after the CU
Spamming of specials is gone
You have 2 pets with special attacks of strong poison, intimidate, dizzy/kd, stun...and other possibilities....plus your cats can runreally fast, heck mine can keep up with a swoop chasing it. So you see your mark, you send in your pets who poison him, intimidate him, kd/dizzy him and stun/blind him while your plucking away at range. On top of that he cant spam his specials repeatedly so it will let them live longer and eat away at his force pool. Now if your with other BH hunting the mark, this just adds even more to how well this can work. 5 BH and 10 pets would be 15 things attacking 1 Jedi at once who can no longer spam specials and who is being poisoned/diseased etc from 10 pets let alone what the BH are doing to him (fire, knockdown, etc.) So this could workout after the CU...no way to know for sure til it gets here.
Actually now thatI have thought about this...lets look at what 5 imperial MBH/MCH could do after the CU:
They all could call 2 level 35 pets = 10 pets
They all could also call ATST =5 ATST
They could all call a droid = 5 droids
So the above scenario would be 5 MBH/MCH with 10 pets, 5 atst's, and 5 droids all on 1 jedi.....think about it
theorb22
Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:39 pm
#2
Can MBH also master CH? Im not sure if there is enough SP....
I know you can start because people have done it, but I don't know about mastering it :/.
Message Edited by theorb22 on 03-24-2005 06:40 PM
Silvarran
Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:52 pm
#3
Now that you ask I dont know if they can or not with the CU change.
Joker9125
Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:07 pm
#4
I feel that CH will be much better for BH after the CU. Currently its useless because a Knight can hit a CL70 pet for 15K damage. No thats not a typo the combat log read 15108 exactly. Jedi currently get a damage bonus to creatures with less than 25K HAM and the devs have stated that this damage mod WILL GO AWAY WITH THE CU. Just that in itself will greatly improve this viability of CH vs Jedi.
P9M
Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:11 am
#5
BH according to the notes is Ranged Support from marksmans and Exploration from scout. It should be more than possible with maybe some medic to spare. Or more pistols to bolster.
Silvarran
Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:58 am
#6
Thank you for figuring that out for me I very much look forward to surprising some marks with my pets. Right now people just laugh, which is good cause when the worm turns it will be funny to see
I very much look forward to surprising some marks with my pets. Right now people just laugh, which is good cause when the worm turns it will be funny to see
theorb22
Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:28 pm
#7
Joker9125 wrote:
I feel that CH will be much better for BH after the CU. Currently its useless because a Knight can hit a CL70 pet for 15K damage. No thats not a typo the combat log read 15108 exactly. Jedi currently get a damage bonus to creatures with less than 25K HAM and the devs have stated that this damage mod WILL GO AWAY WITH THE CU. Just that in itself will greatly improve this viability of CH vs Jedi.
Im afraid Joker is right, a jedi might be surprised for a second...until they find out their total wimp saber can deal nearly instant kills to your pets. I've read the combat spam too, Joker is more or less on the dot about the damage they deal, and thats only with the weaker state dealing area attacks. I have no idea how much the really powerful single attacks do, but I for one don't want to find out really.
Zadokk
Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:45 pm
#8
theorb22 wrote:Can MBH also master CH? Im not sure if there is enough SP....I know you can start because people have done it, but I don't know about mastering it :/.Message Edited by theorb22 on 03-24-2005 06:40 PM
http://www.typeblue.com/cbuilder/swg-cb.php?da=1
According to that tool, it costs 198 points to master both. Leaving plenty of space for some pistols or carbines skills etc.
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