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Thread: New Mounts

Keatsnam
Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:32 pm
#1

Figured I'd point this out from the latest TC notes:

Motley Kaadu and Plodding Falumpaset are now tamable.
Lowered the Cu-Pa and Dwarf Bantha to level 10.
Freth
Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:41 pm
#2

Great news! I've always loved the plodding falumpaset. There was a bug that was introduced that ruined the plodding falumpaset if you called it in a home. It just made the creature unuseable. Hopefully they fixed that.



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grzmo
Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:58 pm
#3

Does this mean that Dwarf Banthas are tamable now? That would be just awesome! It was one of the creatures I wanted to have as a pet!



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Vertexon
Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:38 pm
#4






grzmo wrote:
Does this mean that Dwarf Banthas are tamable now? That would be just awesome! It was one of the creatures I wanted to have as a pet!





Should be, yes.



-Vertexon.
CritterControl
Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:54 pm
#5

while this is great for people who want lvl 10 mounts to sell, what about new pets? i cant wait for a varactyl but i still would like to ride a gualama and tybis
Meuw
Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:09 pm
#6






grzmo wrote:
Does this mean that Dwarf Banthas are tamable now? That would be just awesome! It was one of the creatures I wanted to have as a pet!





Just curious, why would you want one?



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Meuw
Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:34 pm
#7






CritterControl wrote:

while this is great for people who want lvl 10 mounts to sell, what about new pets? i cant wait for a varactyl but i still would like to ride a gualama and tybis







Yes the ability to wild tame these 3 breeds pretty much completes what they should have done ages ago(kaadu, cu pa, falumpaset) but the bantha as a dwarf Bantha will just suffer the same fate as lesser dewbacks/bols. There is virtually no market other than selling them to some noob for 2,000 credits (grown and mounted I get at most 10k for them, though they are nearly impossible to sell).


There is virtually no way you will ever manage to make more than a miniscule profit from selling miniature mounts from the wild. For only slightly more you can get a BE to make you a full size mount. Of course if they paid attention to the community they would know this stuff. In the end these will likely be doomed to the level most the others are , something you tame once and grow. Then toss it away for something useful.


BTW, I have to spend on average 3 days worth of standing in front of a starport for 1-2 hours trying to sell my mounts. They are grown and trained and already mounted. That is to sell 4-10 pets. And they are BE made specials with 4-6k Health so they can also fight. If someone put their minds to it and used up a third or half(I use 10 of my 20 slots) of their datapad space to grow and mount these pets they will be looking at no more than 20-80k for what will take about 8-11 days of work and waiting. (remember that the smaller the mount the longer it needs to grow to become mountable.) Even at it's lowest prices any other profession can make 10-50 times that in less time.


These pets will be fun to see for about 1-2 weeks then they will be forgotten. Don't believe me? Name me 5 people you know who own a lesser Bol or Dewback. Then if you can do that compare it to the amount of people you know or have seen on a BE made dewback or bol. Sad but true.



Forgot to add, if they have indeed raised the speed of mounts in the CU then the market for all mounts may increase. But the miniature mounts will still be an oddity that certain people want, but overall they will be half the price and half the demand.

Message Edited by Meuw on 04-27-2005 12:36 AM



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Vertexon
Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:10 pm
#8






Meuw wrote:


These pets will be fun to see for about 1-2 weeks then they will be forgotten. Don't believe me? Name me 5 people you know who own a lesser Bol or Dewback. Then if you can do that compare it to the amount of people you know or have seen on a BE made dewback or bol. Sad but true.






Yeah, but I think almost everyone agrees that the CL 10 "uber pets" were easily able to be madebrokenly powerfullong before the CU, so it might also be good to look forward to a day when they willreturn balance to the non-CH pets.


And with any luck, I'm still hopeful there will be an eventual re-examination of making mounts in general more viable. Increasing the baby pool would be a step along that road, not the final destination.



-Vertexon.
Freth
Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:31 pm
#9



With different sized people there may just be a market for the smaller pets. Also, big characters might want the comical relief of riding a smaller mount. I wouldn't dismiss these yet.

Message Edited by Freth on 04-28-2005 01:38 AM



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Meuw
Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:12 pm
#10






Vertexon wrote:





Meuw wrote:


These pets will be fun to see for about 1-2 weeks then they will be forgotten. Don't believe me? Name me 5 people you know who own a lesser Bol or Dewback. Then if you can do that compare it to the amount of people you know or have seen on a BE made dewback or bol. Sad but true.






Yeah, but I think almost everyone agrees that the CL 10 "uber pets" were easily able to be madebrokenly powerfullong before the CU, so it might also be good to look forward to a day when they willreturn balance to the non-CH pets.


And with any luck, I'm still hopeful there will be an eventual re-examination of making mounts in general more viable. Increasing the baby pool would be a step along that road, not the final destination.







Not what I was talking about as all Vert. I am sorry it was my fault for not pointing it out more clearly. I often forget that I am prety much alone in the mount selling business. (Which is for a reason which I discussed)


The fact that these pets will not be useful, now or even if you make it so you can walk two feet outside a starport and taming them by the dozen. You can have all you want but itwill notmatter. Unless they are very capable fighters they will not sell for anything but change. And considering what it takes to make these pets useable mounts it is not at all economically viable to capture these things. And no offense Vert but to spout some excrement about raising spawn levels is exactly what i spoke about before. That is an ignorant answer that sounds like you read it off the official SOE reply list. Having even more of them drives prices DOWN dude, that's basic economics.


As for uber pets, believe it or not the ones I sell are not uber lol. The uber ones on my server cost at least 500k upwards of 1.5 million and have 11k health. I have never been a fan or protector of these types of pets as I feel they are exploits. But I tried your way dude. And I starved trying it. And even if the pets are not uber or uberish it does not matter. A person buying a pet from me will always, and I mean always, will buy the BE made dewback and not a lesser dewback mini unless they purpose;ly want just a mini and I do not have the space to keep them one growing. And now that they are making all creatures equal compared by their levels appearance is all that matters. So therefore a BE made lvl10 is just as useful as a natural lvl10 yet larger and a more ample appearance. which would you buy?


Good lord this is basic stuff man.


I am sick of being mean to you Vert. If people can't or refuse to see how foolish some of these statements are then to heck with em. Tired of defending them to be honest.

Message Edited by Meuw on 04-27-2005 10:31 PM



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Meuw
Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:26 pm
#11






Freth wrote:


With different sized people there may just be a marked for the smaller pets. Also, big characters might want the comical relief of riding a smaller mount. I wouldn't dismiss these yet.

Message Edited by Freth on 04-28-2005 12:34 AM





I am aware of this "marked" (market I immagine). And trust me friend I have sold more mounts than anyone since the pre-swoop days. This is my trade, this is what I do for a living and I make a very good living at it. But I will never, ever be able to make even a sustaining amount of cash from selling mini mounts. It is just a boring lazy way to pretend to offer us "new content". I have done all of the things they are doing with these creatures over a weekend with substandard tools. In fact I could make you a dwarf Bantha from a Bantha model in (no joke) 35 minutes. And all but 5 minutes of that would be spent on redoing it's infocards(it's stats). It is just frankly too little too late.


I can't help but gloat a little because I told everyone this was what they would try to pawn off on us as "new" pets when this whole thing with wookies and CU started.



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Freth
Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:35 pm
#12


I used to sell pets for hours on end on the Intrepid server. Starting with the addition of mounts and until I dropped MCH back in first quarter 2004. I spent hours upon hours in Coronet. People used to comment how I never moved. lol


I know exactly how hard it is to sell mounts. I've spent dozens of hours at it. They do eventually sell, but the problem is, like Meuw points out, they want a bigger mount or one that has better stats. We all know they're not worth squat in battle, but people want BE anyway.


I found that these smaller mounts didn't sell too well. The problem is you just don't get much out of them for the effort. 10-20k. Toward the end I bought BE mountable pets instead and started selling those. No matter how you cut it the market for pets isn't consistent. It goes in waves. Some days are good, others are not. It's not a way to make a living, that's for sure. Thanks to JTL, the $ sink isn't as bad as it was. I remember that was the biggest loss of money for me, traveling to Endor and getting pets.


There was a time I made close to a million creditsfrom selling pets, but most of that came from CH-to-CH sales. I would buy BE pets and tame them and sell them for a profit. I ended up going broke because of it too. lol


I think there's a market for mounts, yes... but I wouldn't put all my eggs in that basket.


Since I'll be an MCH and BE, I'll probably start selling again, but this time I can use a vendor and advertise free taming/training for my sales. I think it will be way more lucrative to be both professions.


Another problem with selling pets is the datapad space needed and the time it takes for mounts to come of age.

Message Edited by Freth on 04-28-2005 01:44 AM



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