Creature Handler Archive

Thread: Master CH looking for some help with new system..i CANT teach mount anymore!

xpwrlftr
Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:26 pm
#1

Lets just skip over the fact that this new system stinks to high heaven and is an obvious copy ( albiet a churned up-thrown to the wind version) of the WOW pet system


alright, i got that out of my system...


Now, i cant seem to figure out how to teach any new pet the MOUNT command. Have any of you found out how?

Do i:

- wait till they are a random size ( eg "rollover exp" till the mount command shows up?)

- buy a higher level BE pet and look to see if it has the mount command?

- look around for new animals that are able to learn the command?

- wait for the pet to mature over time? ( as in the old system?)

- tell SWG to stick it, as this is the last straw in a long line of straws?



if its wait till they grow random size due to "exp rollovers" please confirm this with POSITIVE confirmation and not someone guessing...id really like to know for sure before i quit...im really not getting into another time sink <sigh>



- Maxfregar

Longtime SWG Master CH sufferer
Aerontako_Shretalon
Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:27 pm
#2

Like in the old system, they have to hit a certain size. I just rolled over my CL70 bantha once and it became mountable. This makes growing pets faster, if you have the patience for it, then the old10 day wait period. Every time a pet rolls over, they grow in size. In order to see a change in size, however, you gotta store it and call it out again. So, in a few minutes of grinding, you can have a growth equavilent to a 24 hour wait period. All pets have a maximum XP eventually, and the end result is a full grown pet/mount. Lower CL's will require quite a while before you can mount them. A Cu Pa used to be mountable at CL8, but now it becomes mountable after 8 rollovers.


Understand now? Other than the grinding part, which I don't mind anyway since that's basicly WHY a CH has pets, what part of this new system is so terrible? For you vet CH, none of your pets have changed in the least other than the fact they can now switch targets and have the potential to become ALLOT more powerful.


Honestly, some people are never satisfied!

Ravensings
Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:54 am
#3

Hello All,


I am also having difficulty with the mount command not being present. I have a CL 9 bantha that I have fought with and trained an ability and is now fully trained if you look in the datapad. He stopped growing in size as well after the change.I did read that fully trained and mature were two different things so he should continue to grow. I figured maybe he still needs to come out and fight even though it says fully trained so that he can continue to grow so when I pull out my pets he is right there everytime as well. I have two other CL 10 mountable creatures that a friend gave me to train as a mount and the command is just not present. These pets are definately the right size to accept the mount command. Any thoughts. Thanks in advance.







~RAVENSONG~
Former Ahazian

LecheHombre
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:17 am
#4

BE pets of CL10 and under will quite likely never get large enough to take a saddle, even when fully grown. There may be exceptions to this for some of the larger base size mountable types, but I don't know for sure. This is due to the new code that makes the size of a BE pet linked to its CL (which is really cool at times and really aggrivating at others).



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SioBabble
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:23 am
#5

It's important to differentiate between natural tames and BE pets, because the BE pet system is totally borked for mounts. The level of a BE pet now determines what size it is, and it seems that BEs MUST hit level 10 on the nose for a dewback to be mount trainable now. It's even possible that a higher level BE mount critter will grow TOO LARGE for the saddle art, and will cease to be a mount once it's grown past a certain point.


Natural tames are still VERY mount trainable. I've trained four diffrent species as mounts in the post pub 21 environment.


However, the BE pets are just all messed up now due to the new level=size formula that has BEs reeling, making one of their more lucrative opportunities for selling their creations worthless due to the capriciousness of the new BE pet growth system. Way to go, devs.






Tazz vonMannstein Baron-Administrator of Corellia, master navigator of Corellia, captain of the Gregarious Gurreck

Sio Babble MBH/MCH/Cabana Boy; master of Tyson, the GNORT OF DEATH

Jeffn Akbar Nerfed from here to Lok MD/MCM

Zanti Agaesia Bothan MBE, 12 point Master Chef, Havoc Squadron Ace pilot


Gucci_Bobone
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:27 am
#6

Just a fyi - Giant Carrion Spat was mount-trainable on taming... only critter I've found so far that starts out big enough to train as a mount...



Gucci Bobone'
MCH - Forcibly Retired
Valcyn
Proud 1%er for life
"I don't think you can or should change a game that radically out from under a user base. You dance with the ones that brung ya, whether they are the market of your dreams or not. They have invested their passion and built expectations about where they want the game to go. Changing things out from under them isn't fair in my mind, especially given how they have been loyal to you in times of trouble"
-Raph Koster
SioBabble
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:40 am
#7






Gucci_Bobone wrote:

Just a fyi - Giant Carrion Spat was mount-trainable on taming... only critter I've found so far that starts out big enough to train as a mount...





Bol pack runners are insta-trainable as a mount at tame as well. I haven't found a seething bol crusher baby to tame yet, so don't know about them.




Tazz vonMannstein Baron-Administrator of Corellia, master navigator of Corellia, captain of the Gregarious Gurreck

Sio Babble MBH/MCH/Cabana Boy; master of Tyson, the GNORT OF DEATH

Jeffn Akbar Nerfed from here to Lok MD/MCM

Zanti Agaesia Bothan MBE, 12 point Master Chef, Havoc Squadron Ace pilot


xpwrlftr
Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:21 pm
#8

Well, not that it matters much BUT, if you really want an answer Aerontako, here it is....


TIME SINKS


yes, i have been a CH since beta, made master shortly after the game went live. I understood a few of the changes that Ch's went through, obviously having 3 rancors beating ANYTHING that walked was cool to watch ( and fun to play) but it really was overpowered. they REALLY went too far though, especially with the CU...


Now, the answer is this...spend ungodly amounts of time AGAIN to bring up any new pets, not to mention the mount market being trashed. I understand you think i am whining and i cant be satisfied, but see it from my perspective...i play this game for fun, not to grind...this new system is tailor made for the grind....understand now? Lets not even metion they are taking a page from the worlld of warcraft pet book..whoops, did i mention that again?



thank you for those that gave thier feedback on the mount issue


Greylady14
Mon Aug 15, 2005 7:27 pm
#9

I have caught and trained 4 carrion splats (lvl 10) 1 giant splat (lvl 14) 2 cupa's (lvl 14) and all but the giant had to xp roll at least 4 times to able to mount, the lvl 8 BE cu pa that I was given to train never reached mounting state. also make sure you store and recall pet after a couple of xp rolls to see how much it has grown and to check on the mounting.



Ro'esq
Master Creature Handler
Eclipse
hobieone
Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:20 pm
#10

yeah it still rely's on the critters size and how many times you need to roll over a critter to get to a certian size just dependsa on the pet really



just forget about the time line it nolonger exits her hasn't for some time. we're in a virtual star wars universe and it our time line not the movies. so its what we make of this universe ourselves. once this is realized then you'll start having fun
MST3Claye
Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:26 pm
#11

So you're telling me a Bio-Engineered CL5 pet Bantha will never become mountable and stay miniature sized? It all makes sense now...........


*walks off grumbling*


I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PET FOR A WEEK!!!!!


blargh....




Ithoh Ic'kre
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Master Creature Handler
Master Bounty Hunter
Warryyr
Tue Aug 16, 2005 9:47 pm
#12


I think it's atrocious and unacceptable that the non-combatant approach to Creature Handler got thrown into the garbage can, and nobody seems to care too much.


Maybe they all quit already.


I took CH to have pets to entertain with, as I'd go out, tame them, they'd grow (on their own, I didn't have to spend hours upon hours upon hours to get them to grow up) to an acceptable size.


I didn't take CH to spend hours killing things. If I want to do senseless mind-numbing grinding on thousands of animals, I'd play my Jedi.


I used to like being able to tame a pet, and a week or so later, it'd be grown and ready to use.


Yes, you can level up a pet wicked fast now and make it big faster. Whoopity-do, there's NO option whatsoever to NOT do lame grinding just to make a pet grow. I'm stuck with embryonic-sized pets unless I want to go out and slaughter for hours and days.


This one-sided and narrow-view overhaul of CH is just plain inexcusable.


There WAS more to CH than just using your pets to kill. Now you can just collect pets, so long as you like teensy-weensy pets that people will easily step on before noticing, unless you spend all your time in the field killing and killing and killing and killing, and oh guess what, killing some more, and then killing again for another hour or so.


This is LAME.


Comabatant was NOT the way that people played Creature Handler. Yet again we see the total and complete destruction of non-combatant content in this game. A crying shame.


Enjoy your grind, everyone. I grind ridiculousamounts of hoursto get Jedi skills, not to put a saddle on a friggin' CL10 cu pa (at least 6 hours on Sunday, solo). Too bad -this was a cool profession, and not just combat-focused.

Message Edited by Warryyr on 08-16-2005 11:49 PM

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