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Thread: ive never played wow

hamhamthe3rd
Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:26 pm
#1

yesterday i was talking to some guy about pets and he mentioned of how on wow creatures scale with your level. ive heard people compare the cu and various things on kashyyyk with wow but i havenot played wow so i dont know the details of how this works nor can i compare the game to swg. however,maybe some of you can. would scaling levels be good or bad in swg?
Indene
Fri Jun 10, 2005 7:55 pm
#2

When you tame a creature in the WoW level based systemthey start out at their displayed level (SWG equiv would be say a chuba lvl 1) as you fight with them and they get xp and you get xp they grow in level just as you do. If you stable the pet and use another (you can only keep 1 in your "datapad" in WoW and only 2 in the stable) then you can get higher in level but the one in the stable stays at its last level till you take it out and work with it.


As to applying that here I prefered the old way of the pet growing into its abilities. Could some training be added? probably. there are rumors.


-Indene-






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woody4077
Fri Jun 10, 2005 11:19 pm
#3

i'd like to see a stable like structure in SWG it would be a great help to me or any CH to have a place outside of your datapad to store creatures



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Meuw
Sat Jun 11, 2005 2:42 am
#4

I think the stable is useless now. We don't need 20 pets now except to matchwith differentoutfits. Specials don't work (as if they ever did), your pet means nothing unless it is 70th level, and no matter what it is it still has the same stats as any boring creature of it's level. I can't sell mounts anymore so the only need I ever had for more storage is gone. At what it takes for a damn mount to finally grow in my datapad I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever make a profit worth the damn time to do it. It is still just a giant cluster.....fooey, yeah that's the word I want, clusterfooey.



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Freth
Sat Jun 11, 2005 4:40 am
#5

Here's the way I look at it. We had 800+ tamable creatures before the CU. Now there are even more. Having an unlimited datapad for pets would be a nice addition to the game. Or at least expanding our datapad to 100 like the waypoint part of the datapad. It would greatly enhance the fun factor and you would have the space to try out those pet duo's or trio's.


In WoW pets start at the level you tame them at. Humar the Pridelord, a black lion, is level 23 when you first tame him. When you first tame a pet in WoW you must gain its trust. This means feeding it and using it in battle. Once he trusts you enough you get training points to add special attacks to him. Until he gains your trust you have no pet specials. Afterward, you have to keep the pet well fed. If he gets to the starving stage he'll desert you. While the WoW hunter class is nice you don't have near as many creatures you can tame. Any elite/rare you tame is reduced to normal. It wasn't that way before--they nerfed it. WoW is just different. Yes, thepets scale with you as you level. When you reach level 60 the pet is full grown.





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woody4077
Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:54 am
#6

yeah i'm with you there the more pets we can tame and store the better



"check the calendar this is not befriend a loser week"
bonnie(disneys kim possible)

"why is this the only house in texas without a gun?"
reba mcentire(reba)

""that wizard's just a crazy old man"

"id rather kiss a wookie"

"i don't beileve it; that is why you fail"

"free us or die"

"you were the chossen one"

"your clones are impressive"

"feel don't think"
EternalSoul
Sun Jun 12, 2005 8:16 am
#7

Are you blind woody? Your font is huge.



Deniz Soultry
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Ragemaster9999
Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:01 pm
#8






Meuw wrote:
I think the stable is useless now. We don't need 20 pets now except to matchwith differentoutfits. Specials don't work (as if they ever did), your pet means nothing unless it is 70th level, and no matter what it is it still has the same stats as any boring creature of it's level. I can't sell mounts anymore so the only need I ever had for more storage is gone. At what it takes for a damn mount to finally grow in my datapad I would never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever make a profit worth the damn time to do it. It is still just a giant cluster.....fooey, yeah that's the word I want, clusterfooey.





Couldnt have said it better myself.



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woody4077
Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:33 am
#9

yeah as i've said before the DEV's have destroyed our profession



"check the calendar this is not befriend a loser week"
bonnie(disneys kim possible)

"why is this the only house in texas without a gun?"
reba mcentire(reba)

""that wizard's just a crazy old man"

"id rather kiss a wookie"

"i don't beileve it; that is why you fail"

"free us or die"

"you were the chossen one"

"your clones are impressive"

"feel don't think"
Kitoth
Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:04 pm
#10




There are some things about WoW's hunter class, as a pet-handling-type class, that are annoying. The limited pet storage is my biggest beef (maximum of 3 pets, can only have 1 on you + 2 in stable and the second stable slot costs a fortune).


However, as a combat class, it's what CH in SWG used to be and could only dream of being.



  • Pets have specials. Not all creature types can learn all specials. There are 2 types of damaging specials you can use (high damage, slow recharge; low damage, faster recharge), in addition to such things as 'Dash', which is a burst of speed for your pet. You can also take control of your pet for short periods of time to take advantage of any special abilities it posseses (stealth detection) or to simply scout around in dangerous territory.

  • Pets have a 'taunt' special that auto casts or not, depending on how you choose to use it. You train various levels of this ability as you and your pet level up, as lower-level versions stop being effective the higher your target's level.

  • Pets have 3 "states" you can set. Aggressive (attacks anything on sight), Defensive (will attack anything that attacks it or yourself) and Passive (will not attack unless told to do so)

  • Different creatures have different stats, split between Damage/Hitpoints/Armor. There isn't really an "uber" beast, as they're all balanced between those 3 areas. Some have higher damage but lower HP/Armor. Some have high armor but low damage. Some are a medium balance between all 3.

  • You can improve the stats of your pets through 'talents', a kind of skillpoint allocation system where you can improve abilities. Beast Mastery skills improve your pets through increased speed, damage, hitpoints, and adds such abilities as the ability to regain health (to yourself) from your pet attacking another creature.


Additionally, you can just walk up to any creature near your level and tame it. Don't need to go hunting for a baby. Don't need to worry about getting that rare baby spawn and having some nitwit 1-hit kill it. While baby-hunting can be fun, it can also be very frustrating. I don't find I miss the "baby hunting" aspect of the class because I enjoy the hunting and fighting more than the collecting side of it.


And most amazingly, your pets can:

- Attack one thing, then attack another if directed to (unlike SWG)

- Keep up when running (unlike SWG)

- Obey commands. (unlike SWG)

- Make up a good chunk of possible DPS (unlike SWG)

- HOLD AGGRO (unlike SWG)


Go figure.

Message Edited by Kitoth on 06-14-2005 01:07 PM




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Indene
Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:19 pm
#11






Kitoth wrote:





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  • Pets have specials. Not all creature types can learn all specials. There are 2 types of damaging specials you can use (high damage, slow recharge; low damage, faster recharge), in addition to such things as 'Dash', which is a burst of speed for your pet. You can also take control of your pet for short periods of time to take advantage of any special abilities it posseses (stealth detection) or to simply scout around in dangerous territory.





Let me Clarify. What he means by "take control" he means you move your point of awareness into your pet and see thru your pets eyes. You will attack with your pet's specials etc. For the short time you "become" your pet. While in this mode you are not attacking with your normal "body" and it is unprotected unless you have groupmates.


-Indene- (Yes I play WoW too.)







Master Creature Handler - Kettemoor Nov 2003, Radiant Nov 13, 2005
http://www.swgcreatures.com/forums/phpbb2/index.php
Once Happy contented successful Master Merchant. (RiverBend, Naboo.)
Then came the dark times. The NGE
"its as if i heard a million pets cry out in terror...and they were suddenly silenced...i feel a great disturbance in the force"
We're the few, the proud, the Creature Handlers.
Creature Handler Memorial at -1419 283 Mos Mesric, Tatooine, Kettemoor
BE and CH museum at 6627 5365 Tatooine, Chimaera
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